{The Ultimate ANDY DALTON Mega Thread}

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(12-25-2015, 10:12 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote:

(12-25-2015, 10:12 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: So you are saying that going into this year, Cam Newton had totally outplayed Dalton ???  Saying that is comical, you do know coming into this year, Cam had a career record of 30-31-1  with one of the best Defenses in the league during his tenure compared to Daltons 41-23-1 record.  Both came into the league with teams had already were bad teams, neither had any team advantage.   Just this past  summer there were those saying this was a make or break year for Cam just as they were saying that about Dalton. 

Besides have a top Defense with probably the best LB in the NFL during his tenure Carolina they also have  had  Williams and /or Stewart in the backfield since Cam was a starter..  You do understand that he had Steve Smith a Hall of Fame WR his first three years, have had Olsen a top 5 TE since the beginning of his tenure  and the breakout sensation in Benjamin last year.  The shelves of talent have  not been empty for Cam.

Actually the more I look at Carolina and Cincinnati since Newton and Dalton came into the league there is not a great amount of difference between the talent of the teams.  There defense has been better than ours and their running backs and TE over the 5 years also.  I give us an edge at WR and offensive line.

This year though Cam has really put it all together.. he has always had the physical skills but accuracy and decision making has held him back from being the premier player that he is right now.  We can also say Andy has done the same just on a step below Cam this year but to think Cam had towered over Andy in overall QB performance coming into their 5th year well would be factually wrong.

No, I'm not saying coming into this year Cam totally out played Andy. But he's better than Andy. I'll admit I'm impressed with Andy, I never thought the kid could play at his current level. 
[b]But you may be placing too much on QB stats and not enough of watching them actually play.
I'm not going to debate anyone on "who has the better offensive weapons between the two QBs?" It's plain to see. 
Fortuantly for Cam, he's proven he can rush for over a 100 yds and pass for over 300 without Stewart in at RB. 
Whats most important to me is "when in the game did QB perform brilliantly and when did he perform subpar?"
 The key words being "when"!
I'm saying in football, to know is to see, not to read!