11-25-2016, 02:41 AM
(11-23-2016, 07:27 PM)Rhinocero23 Wrote: Why would that be your challenge...I did not say he was not mentioned. I said he was never a serious consideration for the MVP.I record and watch all bengal games twice, constantly rewinding to see what's really going on. Like you said, I don't blame Andy for our teams poor record, but I think he's shares the largest responsibility in this team not going further than they have the years he's been here.
Give me a break...acting like being mentioned as a possible TOP 5 even amounts to something...anything after 1st or 2nd is an "also ran". A larger lists of players peeks interest for a larger fan bases and makes the conversation more global but in no way shape or form did anyone (outside of a few on here) think Andy was even a consideration.
This is where it goes off script with the "Andy is a MVP" crowd. If Andy was mentioned as a Top 3 candidate then you would say #4 & #5 were meaningless...tell me who was 6th last year?
However if Andy was considered top 10, top 12 or top15 we would be reminded daily as if it were a badge of honor. The expectation is so low for this QB just taking the field seems to garner an award.
He is an average NFL QB...there is nothing to point to that says otherwise. I do not blame Andy for the team's poor record this year. I do however lay most of the blame of not taking a good team further into the playoffs in the years past at his feet.
He does not make the players around him better...he is along for the ride. The team carries the QB here. When the "Team" finds it's match we do not have a QB that can put them over the top.
Your signature says Andy is the most underappreciated player in bengals history...I don't know about that. We have our share of guys who were underappreciated. One thing I am sure of is he has been the QB that has done the least with the most talent. If you want to know how I determine the talent level it was with the same articles that said Andy was an "also ran" as a top 5 MVP candidate....I am sure they mean nothing on that point though.
