12-02-2016, 09:33 PM
(12-02-2016, 05:25 PM)Hammerthis Wrote: Maybe because so many on here feel that judging Dalton when (when all the stars line up) he has a healthy OL, a good and steady OC on the sidelines, our starting WR's are available and the team is just balling would be silly! Because like 2015, we would be a good team, winning a high percentage of our games. But not dominate!
Having all the stars line up perfectly to be good gets a lot folks on here excited. Why should one Bengal fan want to spoil anothers excitement?
Better to wait until reality sets in.
Unfortunately, that's when they'll expect the team to go out sign more offensive talent.
MB should spare no limits and reload year, after year with the best players in the NFL on offense.
Example, just a few days ago a bunch of posters were suggesting Andy could use the services of, 6ft 5" tall, 4.3 speed Pryor to line up opposite of AJ.
Even if we signed Pryor, it still would take everything being just right, to be just good, not dominate! That doesn't excite me.
Indictment of Andy? In some ways I guess I am because this team is designed to be lead by the offense and with the players he's had around him we should have been dominant on offense for at least a year or two but never quite reached it. The teams you mentioned for comparison were dominate were they not?
As for for QB rankings, as you know, I feel you put way too much on QB stats.
My point is, QB's usually rise and fall in the rankings with their teams and as a team, unfortunately, we're going down and as a result Andy stats and ranking is going down as well. I'm hoping you'll stop emphasizing how great Andy is based solely on QB stats.
Earlier this season you predicted he would finish the season with a 90% passer rating and I thought the team would determine that.
1. We were healthy and stable last year, and was the team not dominant before Andy went down?
2. You say I put to much emphasis on stats, as if I don't watch the guy. I assure you I've watched plenty of Dalton and plenty of other QB's. Stats reflect reality though. Good QB usually put up good stats, do they not? Obviously if the team is bad, that changes things, but it doesn't change whether you have a good QB or not. Dalton is a good QB playing for a bad team at the moment.
3. Yes, I did predict a 90+ passer rating. I did so without thinking Eifert would miss 8 games, Green would miss 7 games, and the o-line would be one of the worst rated in the NFL (which also affects the run game, which also undoubtedly affects the passing game). For you to sit there and pretend this is all excuses and should have no effect on Dalton is kinda telling.
4. You say people want to "reload" on offense year after year, as if that's what the Bengals have been doing. How many 1st round picks have been on the offensive side during Dalton's tenure? The best FA's have been guys like LaFell and Law Firm. Where are all these mythical weapons at? How have the Bengals in any way spoiled Dalton outside of AJ Green?
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As I've shown you, serious problems on offense can affect really good QBs. Even the best QBs. But we've seen what Andy can accomplish when things are as they should be. The team was dominant and he was among the best in the NFL. So it's not that Dalton needs a fantastic team to be a dominant QB, it's that any good QB needs those things to be dominant. It's a team game, no matter how good your QB is.
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