03-25-2020, 09:22 PM
(03-25-2020, 07:02 PM)J24 Wrote: There both similar players but William has been more consistent over his career. It's either a slight upgrade or downgrade. This deal doesn't make the Defense that much better.
No he hasn't, where is your proof of Shawn being better than Vonn?
This deal makes us better for sure at stopping the run, tackling, taking angles and speed to the edges.
And Vonn Bell is just as good in pass coverage if not better and is younger.
(03-25-2020, 07:17 PM)jj22 Wrote: Our pass defense is solid with Williams and Bates roaming deep. WJIII (ideally) and Phillips on the outside, and Dunlap, Hubbard, and Lawson coming off the edge.
We need another edge player which is why if Baun is there at 33 he checks two boxes as lb and pass rusher. Run defense and tackling was the priority outside of a linebacker who could cover TE'S.
These are some interesting signings but they seem to be focused.
We better hope the signings work or we may never see a FA like this for another generation.
Agreed, lets follow up FA with a great Draft and our coaches actually looking like they know what they are doing this year.
Baun is also who I would love if Murray isn't there, he is my second favorite LB in this Draft behind Murray.
I wouldn't mind Queen after if he fell.
(03-25-2020, 07:25 PM)Mobster Wrote: Nope. Bell is a young ascending player who is only getting better. Williams has already played his best ball.
(03-25-2020, 07:25 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I am stunned by this off season. It is a new way of thinking finally.
Had I known they would be this active I wouldn't have been so against drafting Burrow.
Was for Burrow regardless but this sure makes us all more confident in this team including Burrow...
(03-25-2020, 08:36 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: I do not know how some fans see this as a "push" or negative signing. Bell will become the "star" DB hybrid or Williams will be. They still need two backers, and at least two OL in the upcoming draft. What this signing will do is open the draft at #33.
If McKinney is there, teams will offer trades for #33 pick. It would not surprise me at all if the Bengals go for Ruiz (C/G) in round two and backer in Gay/ADG in round 3 and grab Muse or Dugger later to play backer.
Bell had a down year in 2019 compared to 2018 but that is because they played in deep in over 500 snaps. He can blitz, stop the run and is a leader.
I was all for Delpit before this pick as you know Psych, this pick up makes me think otherwise and opens it all up like you said.
Also if Love or Eason are there at 33 teams that want a QB for the future should be offering trades.
Would love Ruiz in 2 and ADG in 3.
Spot on about Bell.
(03-25-2020, 08:49 PM)Whatever Wrote: These are PFF ratings, so take them with a grain of salt, but by comparison...
Dennard 72.2 vs Alexander 65.7= -6.5
WJIII 53.6 vs Waynes 65.1= +11.5
Williams 54.4 vs Bell 64.8= +10.4
Vigil 54.4 vs Bynes 76.2= +21.8
Billings 69.3 vs Reader 86.7= +17.4
Miller 58.6 vs XSF 60.1 = +1.5
The only real lateral move that was made was at RG. While most are assuming Waynes is Dre's replacement, WJIII is in a contract year and has basically been a one year wonder. He is not good. He hasn't been good for years.
Still hoping Will Jax can turn it around. At least I have hope for him unlike Dre.
