Safety Vonn Bell Signed

[J24]

(03-25-2020, 08:49 PM)Whatever Wrote: These are PFF ratings, so take them with a grain of salt, but by comparison...

Dennard 72.2 vs Alexander 65.7= -6.5

WJIII 53.6 vs Waynes 65.1= +11.5

Williams 54.4 vs Bell 64.8= +10.4

Vigil 54.4 vs Bynes 76.2= +21.8

Billings 69.3 vs Reader 86.7= +17.4

Miller 58.6 vs XSF 60.1 = +1.5

The only real lateral move that was made was at RG.  While most are assuming Waynes is Dre's replacement, WJIII is in a contract year and has basically been a one year wonder.  He is not good.  He hasn't been good for years.  

You're making a judgement over one season?  You have to judge players based off more than one season. + Since when is PFF the only thing were judging a player on? For example let's look at Josh Bynes yes his numbers are superior to Vigil but they both played different roles. One was a sub package run stuffer(Bynes) the other was a 3 down LB. Will the Bengals be able to hide Bynes in pass situations like the Ravens did. Or will they use him like what they did with Preston Brown which ended up badly for all parties involved.

(03-25-2020, 09:00 PM)JerseyDD09 Wrote: So, J24, I wonder what your previous comments were pertaining to Free Agency and the Bengals? Did you say they needed to go out and sign players or not? Your assessments of the players just aren't accurate at all. Every player the Bengals signed are young, in their primes, and graded well over the years, (specifically with Tackling somebody) in PFF or other grading sites.
AND, every player they signed come from successful franchises with playoff experiences.

Reader-Texans---#1 run stuffer according to PFF
Waynes + Alexander---Minnesota---two of the best tackling CB's on the market
Xavier---Dallas---Zeke's rushing stats were better with him in there instead of Connor Williams before he fractured his leg.
Bell---Saints---#1 rated Safety left in FA
Bynes-Baltimore (Need I say anything else). Bynes was graded between 70-80 last 3 years, Vigil was graded at 58 last year according to PFF. Did you watch the same games as everyone else last year??? Vigil missed more tackles against Lamar Jackson in one game than he made all year long!

You've probably figured out I only focused on their Tackling grades. This again is b/c the Bengals Defense was the worst tackling team in the NFL last year. And now up to 10 of those players won't be on the roster any longer. Good Riddance!!!

1.) Yes we were active in free agency but where did we improve on the roster? Wayne's & Alexander are not improvements over Dennard or Kirkpatrick. Their not down grades but not improvements either.
2.) Neither CB, S, or NT were on anyone improvement list except for sunset on the nose tackle. Still the Bengals needed a RT to replace Hart they haven't signed one so far, they needed a 3 down LB haven't signed one so far, they needed a LG haven't signed one so far, and they needed a RG but yet only signed a guy who had a small stretch of success in his career who by the way has never played that position in the NFL so far.
So let me ask you this; how is not addressing the major issues on this team actually improving the team?  It's like fixing the sound system on a sinking boat ok that's nice and all but what about the giant hole in the center of the freaking boat. Can we get some flexy tape on this *****.

(03-25-2020, 09:22 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: No he hasn't, where is your proof of Shawn being better than Vonn?

This deal makes us better for sure at stopping the run, tackling, taking angles and speed to the edges.

And Vonn Bell is just as good in pass coverage if not better and is younger.



Agreed, lets follow up FA with a great Draft and our coaches actually looking like they know what they are doing this year.

Baun is also who I would love if Murray isn't there, he is my second favorite LB in this Draft behind Murray.

I wouldn't mind Queen after if he fell.



 


Was for Burrow regardless but this sure makes us all more confident in this team including Burrow...



I was all for Delpit before this pick as you know Psych, this pick up makes me think otherwise and opens it all up like you said.

Also if Love or Eason are there at 33 teams that want a QB for the future should be offering trades.

Would love Ruiz in 2 and ADG in 3.

Spot on about Bell.



Still hoping Will Jax can turn it around. At least I have hope for him unlike Dre.

1.) Bell graded out as a 54 in pass coverage last season according to PFF.
2.)in there Careers Bell has given up 10 TDs to only 1 INT while Williams gave 12 TDs but also has 12 INTs. Which is better?
3.) Even if we Bell is better than Williams and Wayne's is better than Kirkpatrick the Margin isn't that significant at the position that we significantly upgraded the position to make the Defense that much better. 
However if we used the money that we used on Bell & Wayne on a guy like Corey Littleton or a Joe Schobert then we would have improved our biggest weakness on the team by a significant amount.