05-18-2020, 01:35 PM
(05-16-2020, 11:59 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Um, what?
It was his program. He recruited those kids. He allowed those kids to stay in the program. The culture created at that program is a direct reflection of the person who was in charge running of it. What the hell do you mean he had nothing to do with it?
---Aaron Hernandez, shortly after arriving at UF went to a bar to drink. At the age of 17. Not a huge deal, right? Then he refused to pay for his drinks. Then when confronted by the manager he punched the guy in the head and ruptured the man's ear drum. It was recommened to be a felony charge, but was later "settled" out of court.
---Hernandez was later investigated for being in involved in an assault that put two men in the hospital, with one being beaten and another being shot in the back. Despite this, no discussion took place between Meyer and Hernandez, and Meyer described it as being "a minor situation".
---Hernandez failed at least 3 different drug tests at UF.
---Percy Harvin and Brandon Spikes failed multiple drug tests.
---The Pouncy brothers were also investigated for a shooting
---It came out years later, from interviews from former players and staff, that Meyer and UF would skirt the system hide positive drug tests and simply list the players as injured for games. All the while practicing 1st team all week, then being put in walking boots for cupcake games to avoid suspensions and missed practice time.
---Percy Harvin attacked a coach, and not only wasn't dismissed, he never missed a single game. No discipline whatsoever.
---30 players were arrested at UF in just 6 years.
The list goes on and on, and continues until his O$U days. Go ahead and read some of the emails that came out recently. Even if you want to brush the whole Zach Smith domestic situation off as bs, there's so much more than. There's so much there that paints him as such a cunning and manipulative coach, who is nothing like the person who tries to portray himself as publically.
And that's really my biggest gripe. I'm not so naive to think this is unique to Urban Meyer. That only he allows some of the above to skate by. Sure, it happens. But he's got the gall to act like he's all about God, and this and that.
He claimed to have routinely hosted bible studies for Hernandez and other players. Give me a freaking break. You mean to tell me, after this kid, goes out and drinks at 17, refuses to pay his bill, ruptures a man's eardrum, assaults a man and is witness to a shooting, fails multiple drug tests, that the two of you are going to sit down weekly and study the bible? You know all these things happened, he know you know all these things happened, then you'll both sit there and say "let's turn to The Book of Matthew:3:24. GTFOH!
The man is an absolute fraud of a person. He ran a dirty program and then faked a health scare to get out of the mess created. He then started a bunch of more shady shit at his next school. Then when another scandal started brewing there he ran from there.
Urban Meyer is a FRAUD. A phony. A big fat phony. And to sat he had nothing to do with what was going on at UF is the most absurd thing I've ever heard.
Name me one F**%^$% College Coach who hasn't had a few bad apples go through their programs?!
Jimmie Johnson ran an asylum down in Miami for years. Even the Saint Nick himself runs into problems in Alabama.
Every top program runs into some type of trouble.
When you are competing in the SEC or Big Ten for Titles, you have to take some chances, plain and simple.
So, I guess Bellichick is a scum bag for drafting Hernandez then, even though he's revered as the greatest coach of all time????
I guess all the other NFL teams which every one of those stated players played for are all scum bag NFL Teams and owners, coaches, etc...???
Throw Pittsburgh and Miami on that list as rogue scum bag Franchises?
I think people on here are going a little overboard into placing blame on a few highlighted situations and not giving the credit for the rest of the 99% of good he did for those players, families and communities. No one can control everything, they are not God as you seem to pretend to be I guess.
College football is fraudulent everywhere in the big programs b/c of all the bullshit rules that it has and competition for the elite players.
I think Meyer did enough right to win 3 National Titles, which according to everyone on here bitching about him doesn't mean squat?! Does anyone on here understand how much good has to go into a Program in order to pull National Titles out of it?!
You have to be doing a whole lot of things right with your program in order to get to those levels which you aren't giving him any credit for.
Ok, so Bellichick, you don't care about your players and your program sucks and you are human scum b/c of drafting Hernandez!! He went to jail under your watch buddy!!
Give me a break....
