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QB or the WR which is it ?
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(05-21-2020, 12:27 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: AD has just over a 60% completion percentage over the last 3 seasons and a QB rating of just over 84 ! I haven't looked up the others but I'm pretty sure it's not good either.
I mean, you're accounting for poor QB play in regards to other positions, but it seems you're not doing the same in regards to QB play.

Meaning...

Look at the OL Andy had to work with those 3 seasons.  Could that not help explain why the numbers weren't as good?  At what point during those 3 season did we not have a well below average OL?  I mean, we're talking bottom of the barrel, among the leagues worst over the time span.

What about the loss of AJ Green?  He missed 23 of 48 games (48%) over those 3 seasons.  Could not having your number #1 receiver have something to do with a drop-off in production?

When you're stuck behind a bad OL and you're missing your biggest threat that's going to affect the QB play.
What about the rushinng game?  How much help were they, in taking pressure off of the pass game?

In 2017 we averaged 3.6 yards a carry, and only had 6 rushing TD's.  That's unbelievablely bad.  In 2019 we only averaged 3.9 yards a carry and only had 9 rushing TD's, which is also pretty damn bad.

What about the defense?  What affect does that have on the passing game?  Well, here's our team ranks in total yards allowed over that span...

2019 - 28th
2018 - 32nd
2017 - 17th

Call me crazy, but I would think a defense that is bad is going to put a tremendous amount of pressure on the offense, and as a result the QB.  This leads to a lot of time playing from behind, and being forced to make throws and call plays you may not if you're weren't constantly playing catch-up.

So now we've got a QB in Dalton, whose OL has gone to shit, whose #1 receiving option is often hurt, with a below average run game, and well below average defense... What QB thrives in that envioroment?  Show me a QB that doesn't see a decrease in stats knowing the above.

The fact of the matter is it is a team game.  Every position affects every other position.  You can't just blame one player, or not account for everything that surrounds the situation.

When Andy was surrounded by above average talent he was an above average QB.  When it was below average, he followed suit.  The reality is he did not just magically turn into a terrible QB overnight.  Nor was he suddenly magically among the game's elite in 2015. 

Andy Dalton was a decent and capable starter.  Not great, no. But far from terrible.  As the team became worse and worse his stats became worse and worse.  He has a 9 year career to disect, it's completely unfair to cherry-pick a 3 year window and use it to define his skill level. 
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QB or the WR which is it ? - bengalfan74 - 05-21-2020, 12:27 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 12:41 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - Wes Mantooth - 05-21-2020, 01:34 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 02:47 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 03:43 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 04:11 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 04:43 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 05:15 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 06:36 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-22-2020, 08:49 AM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - Tony - 05-21-2020, 06:14 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 06:34 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - sandwedge - 05-21-2020, 01:55 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-21-2020, 03:41 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - J24 - 05-21-2020, 04:51 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - Whatever - 05-22-2020, 12:20 AM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - phil413 - 05-22-2020, 01:26 AM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - bfine32 - 05-22-2020, 03:16 PM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - SHRacerX - 05-27-2020, 08:30 AM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - SHRacerX - 05-29-2020, 11:02 AM
RE: QB or the WR which is it ? - fredtoast - 05-29-2020, 02:07 PM

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