Let's not sleep on Auden Tate in the WR mix

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(06-08-2020, 05:58 PM)Au165 Wrote: You got stats on how many were thrown when targeting these guys? I found Rivers only threw 1 INT to 10 TDs in 2018 with Williams getting similar separation. Dez Bryant always got the same separation,
, it was never his game, so you can throw out Romos worst season as an example and I can counter with Romos best season. You can beat your opponent with position, you don’t need separation when your a contested ball catcher. Kenny Golladay get 7 more inches of separation than Tate, that is less than a normal WR hand size. Hell AJ got 3 inches more of separation then Tate in 2018. When your talking that little difference it ALL comes down to good ball placement.

I got bad news for you if your caught on this idea you need big separation, he doesn’t. He’s similar to AJ and Tate, they are contested ball catchers who use position, leverage, and timing to win at the catch point.

As for your snarky attitude, that’s not needed but it’s why I come around here less. I will talk actual football with people all day but when you want to act like that then it’s not worth my time.

Tate caught 50% of his targets last year.  Mike Williams caught 54%.  Golladay caught 56%.

Williams had 17 20+ yard catches and 8 40+ yard catches.  Golladay had 22 20+ yard catches and 6 40+ yard catches.  Tate had 8 20+ yard catches and 0 40+ yard catches.  

If you can't get separation, you are not going to catch a high % of your targets in the NFL.  You can still be effective and productive if you can pressure the defense deep and make big chunk plays downfield.  Problem is, Tate simply doesn't possess the physical talent necessary to do that.  

There's a reason why Tate runs a limited route tree.  He's slow getting into his routes and slow out of his breaks.  In other words ,he's not a good route runner.  When you aren't a good route runner, the QB is going to look inaccurate throwing to you, because you aren't where you're supposed to be.  You referenced inaccurate throws on out routes earlier.  That's a timing throw.  That ball is supposed to be out before the receiver makes his break.  If he's slow getting out of his break, the pass will appear too far out in front and inaccurate.  The QB can't leave it inside because it's a pick 6 if the CB jumps it.  

I don't get why we keep excuse making for a guy who has well documented physical limitations and using a bunch of comparisons to guys who are far superior athletes as an example of what he could be.  Auden Tate isn't Mike Williams, Kenny Golladay, or AJ Green.  He just doesn't have their God given ability.  Why limit your offense by shoehorning a possession WR who can't run a full route tree into the lineup?