Trade Candidates?

[Hoofhearted]

(06-07-2015, 10:05 PM)kevin Wrote: Sure....people on here saying trade Frazier for youth...Frazier is youth......I mean, I hope they don't put the single A Dayton Dragons in Reds uniforms right out of high school. ......Frazier is a good young third baseman, his first full season playing was just last year with Rolen here in 2013. ...If the Reds start trading players that just came up for youth, then  it will be time to stop watching the Reds because that is just being way too cheap. 

Again, I hope they keep the younger players and that includes Frazier and yes, Chapman. Good third basemen that can hit and field are hard to find. The Reds were looking for years for a young defensive third that could hit, and now that they found one, people want to trade him. Reds looked for a good young closer for years and now that we have one, people want to trade him.....I understand the dumping payroll near last place, which was why I was always for dumping Ken Griffey Jr and iron gloves Dunn and EE.........but, if this team ever gets so cheap it is trying to field the cheapest team in baseball and getting rid of talent just as they get started, then at that point, perhaps it is time to just shut the franchise down and really go cheap. 

Frazier must stay. To trade all the players mentioned would mean at least 120 losses in 2016. You can watch that if you choose, I sure won't.  Frazier must stay. 

You dump a relief pitcher because they don't have no where near the value that most other positions have, simply because of the way they are used. Take a look at how the Cards handle the closer and bridge (setup) roles. They don't have stars there. Just good, serviceable pitchers. It's not the finances that are the issue; it's that the core of this team has been around for quite a few years now. What have they accomplished? A few WC berths? We simply need better players. Only way to do that is to essentially start over with new, younger pieces to develop. 

BTW - I think we will have a better team after watching some of these rookies in the very near future. If we get to 100 losses, we should get a top 3 pick and get ourselves a high quality prospect. If they are able to get lucky on a few pitchers for the Pen, they'll be solid in 2017. There starting rotation is almost set as it is now with the youngsters.