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[Dill]

(07-04-2020, 03:06 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: If we want a place for civil discourse of varying viewpoints then we can't subsequently create an entirely hostile atmosphere for those who differ from the majority opinion.  Only one poster from this board deserved that type of group response, Lucie/GA9/Tommy C, he posted, and stated, flat out bigoted posts and statements.  Even then certain people went way over the line with him, offering to breed his underage daughters and such.  It's the same type of thing you see in real life media, people deplore the incivility of Trump and then feel free to unleash incivility at people who support him.  Either it's a problem or it's not.  If you think it's a problem then don't engage in it, no matter how disagreeable you may find the position of the person you're talking to.

Well, speaking as someone who has never been suspended or had offensive posts removed to save a thread, I totally agree we should not create an entirely hostile atmosphere for those who differ from the majority opinion.

I don't agree, however, that anyone has ever "deserved that type of group response."  Including Lucie. I doubt anyone will in the forum's new incarnation. Perhaps Lucie was uncivil to others in some posts which were deleted so I did not see them, but he was always more than civil to me, cordial I would say, and the same to anyone who treated him with respect.

I add that Lucie provided me with many insights into how Trump supporters viewed Hillary and the Donald and US foreign policy that I could not get from people who were not gung ho Trump basers. He also put me onto pro-Russian sources I'd not suspected were influencing US voters.  The "bigoted" posts I remember were, in my view, from lack of exposure to other views. Not deliberate insults to stir up trouble. (I write here without knowing the circumstances of his banishment.)

For those seeking a wider range of voter views on political issues, Lucie's absence is a gap in the forum's political spectrum that no one has since filled.