11-24-2020, 03:08 PM
(11-24-2020, 02:22 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I was as big of a supporter of Marvin as anyone here, and even I said he should have been gone after the '17 season.
The problem Taylor has is that he has no history of success to earn the players respect. Marvin had a Super Bowl ring and a 15 year career winning record against other NFL head coaches despite working for one of the worst owners in professional sports.
Just to remind everyone
Mike Browns record with Marvin Lewis................. .518 win%, 7 playoffs, only 6 losing seasons in 16 years
Mike Browns record with all other head coaches.. .273 win%, zero winning seasons in 14 years
Zac was famously hired late because he was at the Super Bowl so he has some coaching success and credentials (yes, it's not Marvin's CV but it is more than almost all the players he is coaching). Of course the shine would be greater if the Rams had won or hadn't faded away since his departure.
He also seems to have the buy-in of the franchise (#9), probably the one guy more successful. This is Burrow's franchise now - not just his team - and for so long as Joe has faith in Zac, he'll be the HC.
(11-24-2020, 02:22 PM)J24 Wrote: Not from a culture/Locker room standpoint no. Were there problems with time management and strategy yes but not culture.
My impression from afar is that the culture was unravelling after the meltdown and never recovered.
(11-24-2020, 02:22 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: You're 100% flat out wrong here. I'm not trying to be rude here, but you are.
Elise Jesse has been writing things like this going all of the way back to when Carlos first went off. She's made numerous claims to the culture in the locker room not being the best for months. She's even used similar sources in the past.
Go look at her twitter page, and you'll see for yourself. Keep scrolling down, and down, and down. This article is basically a compilation of what she's been reporting for weeks and weeks.
Now, you may disagree with the premise of her article, and you may not put much stock in her sources, or her ability as a reporter. That is up to you. But you can't claim she pulled this story out of thin air, right after Burrow went down, in an effort only drive clicks. That's simply not true.
It's a re-hash of what she was previously saying, in an effort to drive clicks out of Burrow's injury.
She sees the anger of Bengaldom and is deliberately feeding it for clicks. That can still be true and the story be true.
