Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Housh gets it
#60
(02-22-2021, 12:01 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: This is simple to answer.

There are only so many jobs available at the NFL level.

After the first wave of free agency is over, the second wave happens. Have you not noticed that historically speaking the Bengals are not involved in the first wave of FA? Is that Mike Brown's choice being cheap or is it players not wanting to be here or a combination of the two?

Now... why can you get a good FA WR and not a good FA tackle, the answer to that is simply the volume of player available at the position group. There isn't 32 good RT in the NFL right now, nor is there 32 good LT's. So, after the 1 or 2 good replacements available is signed, there is not much left to be had.

At the WR group, there is always guys available after wave one. Guys who thought they should get more, or guys that just weren't right up there with the top few guys but still really good WR's. These guys want a job, and therefore will sign a 1 year deal to try and earn the next contract, it literally happens every single year. Guys wait, and then start signing because they realize they aren't getting the big pay day they wanted. 

So, again. It is much easier to get a good starting WR in FA then a good player on the O-line. Has been for years.

Quick glance at WR FA list:

Allen Robinson
Corey Davis
Marvin Jones
Nelson Agholor
Will Fuller
Curtis Samuel
Chris Goodwin
The Tic-toc star
T.Y. Hilton
Tim Patrick
Kendrick Bourne
Keelan Cole
Zach Pascal
Josh Reynolds
Damiere Byrd
Danny Ameondola

All of them had over 600 yards receiving last year.

Then you have:
A.J.
Antonio Brown
Sammy Watkins
Larry Fitzgerald
Kenny Gollday
Deshaun Jackson 

All who had years with injury or limited production but have a history of success.


Compare that to the 3 or 4 names on the tackle FA list from earlier and it should be very obvious that there will be names at WR that will be looking for work after wave one is over. 



Also, the draft pick is wasted if it doesn't increase the win total in the upcoming season. Again... Pitts and Chase aren't going to useful when Burrow is injured and being sacked over and over again.

How many of those FA's can take the top off the defense and provide the deep threat we need?  How many are a legit #1 that we're lacking?  

That's the thing, you're not talking about signing a starting caliber WR as opposed to signing a starting caliber T.  You're talking traditional Bengals C tier FA vs an A tier.  600 yards makes you a "good" starter?  You know 74 guys had 600+ receiving yards last year, right?

That is the single worst draft philosophy I've ever heard.  WJIII was a wasted pick?  Jonah Williams was a wasted pick?  If you're saying a draft pick is wasted if it doesn't increase your win total year one, then you're playing checkers in a chess game.  Plus I already showed you how statistically how it's unlikely a T at 5 is a significant upgrade in year one, which is exactly your definition of a "wasted pick.". You draft OL hoping to groom them so they'll be good starters in a year or two.  You don't draft them looking for an immediate upgrade to fix your line.  
[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
Reply/Quote





Messages In This Thread
Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-19-2021, 09:05 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-19-2021, 09:09 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Frank Booth - 02-19-2021, 09:19 PM
RE: Housh gets it - SadFaceBengal15 - 02-20-2021, 10:49 AM
RE: Housh gets it - BURROWorBUST - 02-20-2021, 04:00 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-20-2021, 10:35 AM
RE: Housh gets it - XenoMorph - 02-22-2021, 10:29 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Bilbo Saggins - 02-19-2021, 09:42 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-20-2021, 01:49 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-20-2021, 02:00 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-20-2021, 02:23 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-20-2021, 10:55 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Daddy-O - 02-25-2021, 10:03 AM
RE: Housh gets it - XenoMorph - 02-25-2021, 10:22 AM
RE: Housh gets it - WeezyBengal - 02-20-2021, 11:38 AM
RE: Housh gets it - SadFaceBengal15 - 02-20-2021, 02:33 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-20-2021, 03:36 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Nately120 - 02-20-2021, 12:14 AM
RE: Housh gets it - jason - 02-20-2021, 12:56 AM
RE: Housh gets it - BFritz21 - 02-20-2021, 02:04 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Mobster - 02-20-2021, 02:56 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-20-2021, 03:12 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-20-2021, 03:13 AM
RE: Housh gets it - schroomytunes - 02-20-2021, 09:33 AM
RE: Housh gets it - BengalsRocker - 02-20-2021, 10:06 AM
RE: Housh gets it - BengalsRocker - 02-20-2021, 10:18 AM
RE: Housh gets it - SadFaceBengal15 - 02-20-2021, 10:55 AM
RE: Housh gets it - GreenCornBengal - 02-20-2021, 10:59 AM
RE: Housh gets it - BengalsRocker - 02-20-2021, 11:08 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-20-2021, 11:13 AM
RE: Housh gets it - BengalsRocker - 02-20-2021, 11:16 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-20-2021, 03:32 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-20-2021, 04:54 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-21-2021, 01:46 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-21-2021, 02:45 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-21-2021, 04:15 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-21-2021, 02:58 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-21-2021, 03:55 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-21-2021, 04:48 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-21-2021, 08:35 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-22-2021, 03:03 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-22-2021, 03:59 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-21-2021, 05:57 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-21-2021, 08:51 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-21-2021, 09:08 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-21-2021, 09:22 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-22-2021, 12:06 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Mike M (the other one) - 03-01-2021, 04:29 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-21-2021, 05:01 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-21-2021, 05:11 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-21-2021, 05:52 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-21-2021, 10:28 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-22-2021, 12:01 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-22-2021, 01:04 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-22-2021, 01:48 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-22-2021, 02:51 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Frank Booth - 02-22-2021, 02:56 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-22-2021, 11:20 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Frank Booth - 02-22-2021, 11:24 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-23-2021, 06:18 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Frank Booth - 02-23-2021, 06:22 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-24-2021, 01:55 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Frank Booth - 02-24-2021, 03:59 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-24-2021, 01:22 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Frank Booth - 02-24-2021, 01:38 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-24-2021, 03:51 PM
RE: Housh gets it - rfaulk34 - 02-24-2021, 10:45 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-24-2021, 11:32 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Frank Booth - 02-24-2021, 11:43 PM
RE: Housh gets it - rfaulk34 - 02-24-2021, 11:54 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 03-01-2021, 08:57 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 03-02-2021, 12:07 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 03-02-2021, 12:13 AM
RE: Housh gets it - ochocincos - 03-02-2021, 06:59 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 03-02-2021, 11:34 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 03-03-2021, 12:50 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 03-03-2021, 09:08 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 03-03-2021, 10:47 AM
RE: Housh gets it - ochocincos - 03-03-2021, 10:48 AM
RE: Housh gets it - rfaulk34 - 02-23-2021, 02:11 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-23-2021, 06:31 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Frank Booth - 02-23-2021, 06:36 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-24-2021, 02:00 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-24-2021, 02:11 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-24-2021, 02:43 AM
RE: Housh gets it - fredtoast - 02-24-2021, 02:01 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-24-2021, 11:10 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Bilbo Saggins - 02-24-2021, 02:50 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Synric - 02-23-2021, 07:06 PM
RE: Housh gets it - rfaulk34 - 02-24-2021, 12:48 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-23-2021, 09:17 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-24-2021, 02:27 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-20-2021, 11:09 AM
RE: Housh gets it - schroomytunes - 02-20-2021, 11:18 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Bengalitis - 02-20-2021, 11:24 AM
RE: Housh gets it - samhain - 02-20-2021, 12:08 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-02-2021, 12:29 AM
RE: Housh gets it - spazz70 - 02-20-2021, 01:10 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Big Boss - 02-20-2021, 02:53 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Frank Booth - 02-20-2021, 03:55 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Trademark - 02-21-2021, 07:15 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-21-2021, 10:57 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Whatever - 02-21-2021, 02:14 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Essex Johnson - 02-21-2021, 05:08 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Joelist - 02-22-2021, 02:19 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Tony - 02-22-2021, 02:44 AM
RE: Housh gets it - EatonFan - 02-22-2021, 07:40 AM
RE: Housh gets it - SHRacerX - 02-22-2021, 09:49 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-22-2021, 11:54 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Destro - 02-23-2021, 09:54 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-23-2021, 10:02 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Destro - 02-23-2021, 10:16 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Destro - 02-23-2021, 11:21 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-24-2021, 12:30 AM
RE: Housh gets it - SadFaceBengal15 - 02-24-2021, 12:35 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Jason_NC - 02-24-2021, 08:34 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-24-2021, 04:33 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Jason_NC - 03-06-2021, 01:48 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-24-2021, 12:27 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Destro - 02-24-2021, 04:07 PM
RE: Housh gets it - Synric - 02-25-2021, 10:55 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Murdock2420 - 02-25-2021, 11:39 AM
RE: Housh gets it - Nicomo Cosca - 02-25-2021, 12:14 PM
Housh gets it - ochocincos - 02-25-2021, 12:07 PM
RE: Housh gets it - JerseyDD09 - 03-02-2021, 08:27 PM

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)