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Larry O still a free agent - Fails physical
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(06-22-2022, 12:30 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: BJ played 47% (502 snaps) of our defensive snaps, Larry played 68% (724). So Larry played 44% more snaps than BJ but they had pretty similar numbers.

BJ had 5.5 sacks, 50 COMB, 29 SOLO, 6 TFL and 12 qb hits
Larry had 7 sacks, 49 comb, 29 solo, 12 TFL and 16 qb hits

If BJ’s numbers kept to that pace for 724 snaps he would have had 8 sacks, 72 comb, 42 solo, 8.6 TFL, and 17 qb hits.

PFF is far from perfect as we know but it can be useful comparing players at the same position. Larry had a score of 50.3 last year. BJ was 70.4.

It’s also worth noting how well our defense played AFTER Larry went down. To me, they looked like they played their best ball when BJ was getting more snaps after Larry went down.

I’m not trashing Larry, but BJ was better last year. Larry had some very nice splash plays but had a lot of bad ones too. I would have loved to have Larry back at a reasonable price but only if he was a rotational backup to BJ this year instead of the other way around. The bengals picked the right guy to keep.

Carl Lawson had 8.5 sacks on 477 defensive snaps as a part time player rookie. He has never reached that total again.
Carlos Dunlap had 9.5 sacks on 587 defensive snaps as a part time player rookie. He only reached that total again once in 11 years.

Wallace Gilberry had 6.5 sacks on 309 defensive snaps in 2012 and 7.5 sacks on 509 defensive snaps in 2013, both as a rotational situational pass rusher. As a full time starter in 2014 he had 1.5 sacks on 826 defensive snaps.

Trey Hendrickson had 13.5 sacks, 12 TFL, 25 QB Hits on 558 snaps in 2020 as a rotational part time starter. 
Trey Hendrickson had 14.0 sacks, 12 TFL, 27 QB Hits on 717 snaps in 2021 as a full time starter.

You can't just project guys like that. More snaps don't automatically mean you get more pass rushing stats. It means you have less rest, more wear and tear, guys get to see your moves more, you have to play the run more, you have to play in non-pass-rushing-ideal downs and situations more.
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RE: Larry O still a free agent - Fails physical - TheLeonardLeap - 06-22-2022, 03:31 PM

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