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(06-30-2022, 04:49 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: And every time you keep going back to a sample size of 4 games while ignoring the multiple years worth before. Cool, he caught 80% in a 4 game span, but he caught 54.7% in a 37 game span prior to that. Which do you think is closer to reality for him going forward?

As far as regular season stats go, you don't care, but that is what will get you to the playoffs. The AFCN was the weakest it has probably ever been last year and the Bengals won the division by 1/2 of a game. Don't be counting your playoff chickens before the regular season eggs have hatched. You need to get there first and without regular season stats, you don't get to play those games. OBJ won't be gone the entire season, and when he comes back, he's going to want snaps and he's going to want serious targets. If he doesn't get those, he'll be a problem and a distraction.

Bottom line, a lot of guys have a ring that the Bengals don't have but aren't a good addition. Rapistburger has two rings, doesn't mean we want to add him. Antonio Brown has a ring, doesn't mean we want to add him. 

You said "people are overlooking" but I literally said that Boyd fills a different role in the post that you quoted, then you proceeded to tell me that while also saying he would beat out Boyd. OBJ and Boyd aren't competing for snaps, OBJ would be competing with Chase and Higgins on the outside and he loses both of those battles in skill, production, and personality. You can't just randomly move Chase or Higgins into the slot and expect them to be the same players there.

You say he "knows the WR situation here" but his ego might honestly believe that he'll just be the big dog when he comes here, which is just not happening. We saw it with the Rams last year when Desean Jackson forced his way off the Rams due to lack of targets despite knowing the WR situation when he came there. Divas gonna diva.

Your plan involves moving a great outside WR into the slot where he may or may not be good, and then making a great slot receiver a punt returner, just so you can bring in a 30-year-old with a torn ACL and an iffy personality. That's a stupid plan.

I am focused on the playoffs because playoff football is much different than regular season football.  Look at Marvin Lewis's tenure as HC or the absolute poundings Joe Burrow took at the hands of the Rams and Titans if you need more proof of that.  As I said, I'm looking for pieces that will put us over the top in the playoffs to win a Super Bowl.  

So what is your argument, exactly?  Are you saying that the Bengals will be on the outside looking into the playoffs if we don't sign anybody else?  Are you saying we aren't even a Top 7 team in the AFC on paper and need to sign more guys to make the playoffs?  Are you saying Chase, Higgins, and Boyd can't carry the load for OBJ in the regular season?  If so, that's all the more reason to bring in OBJ.

News flash, the Browns are in disarray and don't have a QB and the Steelers have Mitch Trubisky.  The AFCN is weaker this year on paper than it was last year.  Sure, you can argue the first place schedule, but let's see how Tyler Boyd fared against playoff teams in the regular season last year...

Steelers=4 catches on 6 targets, 36 yards.
Packers=4 catches on 5 targets, 24 yards
Raiders=6 catches on 8 targets, 49 yards
Steelers=2 catches on 2 targets, 15 yards
49'ers=4 catches on 5 targets, 55 yards
Chiefs=4 catches on 6 targets, 36 yards

See the pattern there with the playoffs?  Boyd does not play well against top teams.  

I missed the part where OBJ was a serial rapist or clinically insane.  I also haven't heard about him cold cocking any girls while he was in college.  You want a SB win or choir boys?  I assume you were vehemently against the La'el Collins signing, then.  

You realize LSU used Chase(as well as Justin Jefferson) in the slot as well as outside?  You also realize OBJ also saw a good deal of time in the slot when he was with the Giants, right?  Seriously, this is an uneducated take.  Go back and watch the infamous "Chase is on the Case" play and look where he lines up.  Also check out OBJ's TD in the SB and look at where he lines up.  Seriously, you're trying to vaguely argue Boyd was "used differently," but don't even know enough about WR usage to know Chase and OBJ are not purely outside WR's.

My plan is to allow the offense greater flexibility to take advantage of defensive match ups and get it's biggest playmaker the ball in space by swapping out a slot WR for a guy who can line up inside or outside and greatly improve our WR depth in the process.  Your plan appears to be trips through fantasy land, praying this year's Golden Binns winner can actually come through if his number gets called, and excuse making for a guy who repeatedly disappeared in big games last year simply because you don't seem to like a potential upgrade.
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OBJ - Bengalfan4life27c - 06-29-2022, 12:55 PM
RE: OBJ - psychdoctor - 06-29-2022, 12:57 PM
RE: OBJ - TheLeonardLeap - 06-29-2022, 01:03 PM
RE: OBJ - bengalfan74 - 06-29-2022, 01:31 PM
RE: OBJ - Ell Prez - 06-29-2022, 01:42 PM
RE: OBJ - TheLeonardLeap - 06-29-2022, 03:02 PM
RE: OBJ - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-29-2022, 03:13 PM
RE: OBJ - Whatever - 06-29-2022, 04:33 PM
RE: OBJ - TheLeonardLeap - 06-29-2022, 11:35 PM
RE: OBJ - Whatever - 06-30-2022, 12:47 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-30-2022, 01:17 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-30-2022, 01:18 PM
RE: OBJ - KillerGoose - 06-30-2022, 01:25 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-30-2022, 01:41 PM
RE: OBJ - KillerGoose - 06-30-2022, 01:51 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-30-2022, 01:53 PM
RE: OBJ - KillerGoose - 06-30-2022, 02:01 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-30-2022, 03:30 PM
RE: OBJ - KillerGoose - 06-30-2022, 03:33 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-30-2022, 03:34 PM
RE: OBJ - Whatever - 06-30-2022, 04:04 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-30-2022, 04:05 PM
RE: OBJ - Whatever - 06-30-2022, 04:28 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-30-2022, 04:31 PM
RE: OBJ - Whatever - 06-30-2022, 02:06 PM
RE: OBJ - rfaulk34 - 06-30-2022, 02:29 PM
RE: OBJ - TheLeonardLeap - 06-30-2022, 04:49 PM
RE: OBJ - KillerGoose - 06-30-2022, 05:00 PM
RE: OBJ - Whatever - 06-30-2022, 08:46 PM
RE: OBJ - TheLeonardLeap - 06-30-2022, 09:24 PM
RE: OBJ - Whatever - 06-30-2022, 11:46 PM
RE: OBJ - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-30-2022, 01:14 PM
RE: OBJ - Tony - 06-30-2022, 01:37 PM
RE: OBJ - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-29-2022, 02:16 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-29-2022, 02:19 PM
RE: OBJ - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-29-2022, 02:21 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-29-2022, 02:24 PM
RE: OBJ - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-29-2022, 02:30 PM
RE: OBJ - Frank Booth - 06-29-2022, 02:36 PM
RE: OBJ - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-29-2022, 02:58 PM
RE: OBJ - XenoMorph - 06-29-2022, 02:32 PM
RE: OBJ - BFritz21 - 06-29-2022, 03:02 PM
RE: OBJ - Rubekahn29 - 06-30-2022, 06:12 AM
RE: OBJ - XenoMorph - 06-30-2022, 08:16 AM
RE: OBJ - Rubekahn29 - 06-30-2022, 10:22 AM
RE: OBJ - Savagehenry54 - 07-02-2022, 07:54 PM
RE: OBJ - samhain - 07-03-2022, 03:32 PM
RE: OBJ - Wyche'sWarrior - 06-30-2022, 07:50 AM
RE: OBJ - lone bengal - 06-30-2022, 10:33 AM
RE: OBJ - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-30-2022, 03:29 PM
RE: OBJ - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 07-01-2022, 11:39 AM
RE: OBJ - Tony - 07-01-2022, 04:41 PM
RE: OBJ - Housh - 07-01-2022, 10:16 PM
RE: OBJ - Bengalfan4life27c - 07-03-2022, 01:10 PM
RE: OBJ - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 07-03-2022, 03:06 PM
RE: OBJ - TheLeonardLeap - 07-03-2022, 11:42 PM
RE: OBJ - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 07-04-2022, 03:19 PM
RE: OBJ - QueenCity - 07-03-2022, 04:00 PM
RE: OBJ - Luvnit2 - 07-03-2022, 08:43 PM

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