08-10-2022, 07:31 PM
(08-10-2022, 06:45 PM)ochocincos Wrote: No, I haven't. He was bad, but IMO he wasn't Prince-level bad.
PFF metrics not including rating...
Isaiah Prince 2021 (inc. postseason):
Starts = 8
Pass Blocking Snaps = 395
Sacks Allowed = 5
Hits Allowed = 7
Total Pressures Allowed = 36
Bobby Hart 2018 - 2020:
Starts = 45
Pass Blocking Snaps = 1918
Sacks Allowed = 20
Hits Allowed = 15
Total Pressures Allowed = 121
Hart had 4.85x the number of pass blocking snaps as Prince did.
Divide Hart's numbers by 4.85 and you get the following metrics per 395 pass block snaps...
Sacks - 4.12
Hits - 3.09
Total Pressures - 24.95
So I stand by my statement that Hart wasn't as bad in pass protection as a Bengal 2018-2020 as Isaiah Prince was last year.
Isn’t your sampling biased? You basically said 50% of one guys starts are against the best teams in the league (playoffs/SB)? The other issue is you get smoothing with Hart because of that larger sample size and when he did play awful opponents.
Not going to act like PFF is the end all be all but Prince last year was basically the same guy Hart was his career here. He had a slight uptick the last year but close enough to say…they were basically the same dude.
Which goes back to my point from the start that almost all back ups essentially look about equally awful. In a league desperate for good o line play, if they weren’t awful they wouldn’t be back ups.
