03-18-2023, 10:38 AM
(03-17-2023, 05:33 PM)Nately120 Wrote: The post to which he replied was pretty shady in itself. I know we strive to kill each other with kindness, but it's hard.
I will say that it does sort of go along with the reason we can't discuss things anymore because in order to have a logical and civil discussion the parties involved need to be able to establish some form of common ground. When it comes to covid if people can't agree whether or not the vaccine was mandated and forced upon the populace by the government, what kind of civil discussion can take place? The viewpoints reflect differing realities.
It's akin to ranting in Jungle Noise about how Duke Tobin needs to be fired and the Bengals need to draft a QB because we never should have drafted Baker Mayfield. Joe Burrow is our QB? Pffft, do your research, sheep.
But the vaccine is old news, because now my gripe is that one of the two political parties we are so graciously given (and the one that can come in second place and still win, coincidentally) is basing their politics around a term they can't or won't operationally define. We are intentionally being given a landscape that is incompatible with logical and rational discussions.
Yeah, having rational discussion is really tough these days when it comes to politics. My in-laws, love 'em to death, are extremely conservative. Vote straight ticket Republican without any research and walk out of the building. The other day, they asked if the trans movement in younger people was "indoctrination by the left in our schools". That's a tough one to go into, because it is the completely wrong way to look at it. So, you have to try to tell the person they are wrong without explicitly doing so because you don't want them on the defensive and shutting down.
There are objective facts and realities in many of these conversations. If someone approaches me and tells me that "masks never worked" and the vaccine was worthless, I have to begin that conversation in some way with the assertion that they are in fact wrong. That really bothers people - no one likes being told they are wrong, or that they misunderstood the literature they read, or their favorite media outlet is twisting the factuality of the story etc.
