Jonah squatted 600 lbs!

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(06-09-2023, 09:59 PM)casear2727 Wrote: This needs some context, Jonah actually scored higher than all divisional OTs one week with a score over 80, he hit the 70's a few times.  He gave up only 4 sacks vs 14 teams.  

Facts are better than the eyeball test.  If Carman was better he would score tremendously higher than Jonah and his 1100 snaps, he didn't, he was worse.    Ranking Carman so high in the snow game without 2 of the Bills best dlinemen when he barely scored a 60 is a bit of a reach wether you like PFF or not.

I'm not down on Carman, I think he has improved.  But he has not won a spot in 2 years, was beat out by a rookie from a MVC team, and he openly stated he had a difficult time on the right side.  He was much better at LG than RG, thus being better at LT isnt too surprising. I would love to see Carman turn it on.  But I dont think anyone on the Bengals staff thinks he is better than Jonah.

There is NO savings this year between the 2.  We are paying Jonah 12.6M regardless if he is the starter or not.  Jonah also helps us with the draft next season if he plays well this year when it comes to a higher comp pick.

I absolutely agree that we keep LC regardless.

I don't understand the first point you made.  Jonah's pass blocking rating was worse than Carman's over the entire season in what was the first two games EVER for Carman playing LT in the NFL.  The snow game might have had something to do with it, but he did very well against KC.  I think he was our highest rated linemen that game.  Again, this was his first two starts at LT in the NFL.

There is absolutely savings to be had, but Jonah would have to be traded for that to happen.  I thought I explained how my wish was that some desperate team would give the Bengals some equity for Williams.  

I come back to this point about Carman a lot:  I saw Andrew Whitworth struggle BIG TIME when he started playing OT.  He was MUCH older and more experienced, but struggled really badly.  Good thing for the Bengals they didn't give up on him so easily.  

Maybe Carman will shrink in the face of the competition.  Maybe he will rise.  Either way, my hope is still that he wins the job making Jonah expendable and the Bengals get something for him and can apply that savings to either contract extensions or another player.  

I don't spend much time being a cap-ologist, but I think one of the things this could allow is to give Tee a lot of his next contract in the form of a bonus, so his future dollars aren't hurting as much.