12-10-2023, 01:24 AM
First, full disclaimer, I will indeed not listen to the podcast. Sorry.
What i felt like adding anyways - imho, this whole relying on statistics to prove a point is a flawed approach. Crime rates can fall and rise for several reasons and by several measures, it really does not prove conclusively whether any administration does good on crime or not. Each interested party will interpret the data as they please.
On the other hand, there is an actual cop in California giving anecdotal evidence, I am not willing to just dismiss that so easily as meaningless. Think of the poster what you please, but I for one do not consider him one to exaggerate or lie about personal experiences just to underline an initial point, like a blind partisan maybe would. So, there's probably something to it at least. In the end though, it's not even necessary to just rely on his words alone. They actually are echoed plenty. Eg. people in Californian cities actually are indeed quite dissatisfied about drime in their state, and that's not on a FOX echo chamber to blame. I feel that's just a blind spot on the liberal side, all too easily dismissed with a crime rate statistic. At the very least, imho there needs to be a far bigger acknowledgement that this is an important issue for quite a lot of people, and not for crazy reasons. You can debate whether shoplifting is up or down all day, it does not change the fact that probably there are problems deserving more attention. If only for tactical reasons. Seems there are plenty of people who think similar to SSF and detest Trump, but just can't stomach lliberal talking points on this issue and hence are not gettable.
Two cents given.
What i felt like adding anyways - imho, this whole relying on statistics to prove a point is a flawed approach. Crime rates can fall and rise for several reasons and by several measures, it really does not prove conclusively whether any administration does good on crime or not. Each interested party will interpret the data as they please.
On the other hand, there is an actual cop in California giving anecdotal evidence, I am not willing to just dismiss that so easily as meaningless. Think of the poster what you please, but I for one do not consider him one to exaggerate or lie about personal experiences just to underline an initial point, like a blind partisan maybe would. So, there's probably something to it at least. In the end though, it's not even necessary to just rely on his words alone. They actually are echoed plenty. Eg. people in Californian cities actually are indeed quite dissatisfied about drime in their state, and that's not on a FOX echo chamber to blame. I feel that's just a blind spot on the liberal side, all too easily dismissed with a crime rate statistic. At the very least, imho there needs to be a far bigger acknowledgement that this is an important issue for quite a lot of people, and not for crazy reasons. You can debate whether shoplifting is up or down all day, it does not change the fact that probably there are problems deserving more attention. If only for tactical reasons. Seems there are plenty of people who think similar to SSF and detest Trump, but just can't stomach lliberal talking points on this issue and hence are not gettable.
Two cents given.
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