Israel/Hamas War Superthread

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(03-12-2024, 12:59 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: GMDino: There are "elements" of the gop that one could post evidence they support fascism.  

I still don't think we can say that a fellow poster is a "fascist apologist".

To be sure, just as there are elements in the Democratic party that are communist, an equally extreme ideology.  Neither represent the stated goals or objectives of the organization or the beliefs of the majority of their members.  This argument cannot be made for Hamas.  Their goal is the destruction of Israel and eradication of the Jews in the Middle East.  How do we know that, because they flat out say it.  Consequently, anyone who choses to join Hamas, align with Hamas or defend Hamas does so knowing what their exact intentions are.  Hence your analogy falls apart almost immediately.

The oversimplification here--I just can't let it pass.  You've equated Hamas to the Soviet Union--both "evil."

But we allied with the Soviet Union during WWII. I.e., we chose to "align" with them, believing we knew their "exact intentions." 

Few believe that made the US "Communist apologists/supporters."  

But that whole analogy is out of kilter because no one in this forum has "allied/joined" with or "defended" Hamas "knowing their intentions." 

You just claim "plenty of evidence" for that because people introduce reporting and other information which doesn't obey your rule:

TRUST everything the IDF says and DISTRUST anything which contradicts them, whether it comes from Hamas or not.

The "Hamas apologism" you see everywhere up and down the forum you've implicitly defined as any challenge to the IDF version of the war.

(03-12-2024, 12:59 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Quote: If someone posts repeatedly the hate gay people and gay people are bad and need to be eliminated or forced to change or not act so "swishy" maybe you have a point. Perspective.
But I still think on these board labeling them would be frowned upon.

If so it's rather a symptom of what's going on in general in this country.  Fear of causing offense leading people to tip toe around behavior that would have been lambasted not long ago.  I would conclude that you've had zero issue labeling me as a GOP supporting conservative, a label I do not believe applies to me at all.  I didn't cry about it, I disputed it with facts.  Whether they convinced anyone is for them to decide, but as an adult I have the ability to stick up for myself.

I have "zero issue" with labeling you as "GOP supporting," given your extensive and repeated support for GOP policies and Trump SCOTUS choices and constant attacks on something you call "the left." I'd call that behavior "aligning" with the GOP or "Right wing apologism."

Resolutely attacking "the Left" and defending right wing politics while disavowing that you are right winger doesn't make you a Republican or conservative any more than it makes you some kind of impartial, centrist "independent" who avoids extremes.

You do "cry" about being labelled though, as you exempt yourself from the standards you apply to others.

And applying labels like "Hamas apologist" and "terrorist supporter" to people in this forum looks rather like an emotional, way-over-the-top attempt to generate "fear of causing offense"; so people will "tip toe" around Israeli behavior they would "lambast" in anyone else. You are quite alone in the extremism of your rhetoric here.