Israel/Hamas War Superthread

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(05-07-2024, 01:51 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Bless your heart.  If the first group then does not distance themselves from the rock throwers, both in word and deed, then you have chosen to be associated with them.  This act of terrorism occurred days ago.  Have either of those things happened since?  I've made this exact point several times, yet you seem to be unable to grasp it.  Where is the condemnation?  Where is the complete repudiation of the violent rhetoric and deeds?  If anything your "peaceful" groups have been gravitating the opposite direction.

That bit of black and white, either/or thinking tops even your claim that acknowledging IDF war crimes mitigates Hamas 
(wear blinders or "support terrorism").

As far as just free-associating connections between actors, it's sillier than a claim Dino received funds from an NGO that Soros contributed to in 2020. Criminal acts occur all over the US and the world and no one unassociated with the actors, especially if they are unknown, is "choosing" to associate them by refusing to make sure everyone hears him braying "condemnation"!

And it's a rather limited understanding of the complex history and politics involved here to always immediately respond to some group's action with selective and repetitive demands for "condemnation" and "repudiation," 

   and then to shift discussion--and criminal association--to "predictable" forum members who won't condemn as fast, often and loudly as you want them to--usually because they are still acquiring information and assessing what has happened.

(05-07-2024, 01:51 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: No need to wonder.  Electing genocidal maniacs to lead you seems to have been a poor choice to effect that change, no?

Actually your time line is a bit off here. 

The genocidal maniacs only got their shot AFTER Sharon and Netanyahu tanked the peace talks and increased settlements. Voting for the peace option weakened the PA and strengthened Israel.

The maniacs have focused international attention and pressure back on the peace option. 

Which you'd likely know if you took a little time off from selective condemnation to maybe read a book on that recent history.