5 - 0 vs the NFC, 0 - 5 vs the AFC North.

[Essex Johnson]

(12-26-2023, 03:19 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I was just having an argument about Tomlin with a Bengals fan on Facebook the other day. 

I compared him to Marvin Lewis and said he only won the SB with Cowher's team and staff. Once that dried up, he's been 3-7 in the playoffs over the last 13 seasons, missed the playoffs 6 times (possibly 7), with playoff losses to the likes of Tim Tebow, Blake Bortles, Baker Mayfield and the broken husk of Peyton Manning.

Most overrated coach in NFL history, imo. He's not terrible, but people talk like he's a HOF coach when the results just aren't there. He's twice as likely to not make the playoffs at all than to win a playoff game.

He'd also be 2-8 in the playoffs since the last Super Bowl if Jeremy Hill holds on to the ball. The guy almost out Marvin'd Marvin, when Marvin had a backup QB.

"No losing seasons" is cool, but a low bar for success. He hasn't done anything great in over 10 years.

Ironically, a Steelers fan agreed with me and said Steelers fans make the Marvin comparison often.

What is great,
Coach 1 has 4 SB appearances with 0 wins, 10 playoffs in 24 years, 11-9 in playoffs 535 winning percentage 
Coach 2 has 2 SB appearances with 1 win, 10 playoffs in 15 year, 12-9 in playoffs , 623 winning percentage,  
Coach 3 has  1 SB appearances with 1 win, 10 playoffs in 15 years, 11-9 in playoffs 617 winning percentage 
Coach 4 has  4 SB appearances with 0 wins, 8 playoffs in 18 years  11-8 in playoffs 561 winning percentage 
Coach 5 has 2 SB appearances with 1 win ,  10 playoffs in 16 years, 8-9 in playoffs  630 winning percentage
Coach 6 has 3 SB appearances with 2 wins , 10 playoffs in 19 years, 11-9 in playoffs 569 winning percentage 
Coach 7 has 0 SB appearances,  14 playoffs in 21 years 5-13 in playoffs 613 winning percentage 

3 coaches in HOF Cowher (2), Levy (4), Parcells (6) 
2 coaches not in HOF  Schottenheimer (7) , Reeves (1)
2 active Tomlin (5) , Harbaugh (2).
All are hof consideration careers, none have great playoff records, Tomlin is for sure HOF career consideration as is Harbaugh when you compare them with the rest of that list.

Also sure the cupboard was not bare for Tomlin but give credit were credit is due , he took a 8-8 team to 10-6 then won SB and 15 starters in 2008 team were not on 2005 and if you want to go to 2011 team only 7 remained that lost in SB. I agree he has not maintained that level of success but how look above at that excellent coaches listed it is hard in NFL to win at high level year in and year out and even make SBs.