02-02-2016, 11:39 AM
(02-02-2016, 01:41 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I'm not sure I see the connection between the two.Thanks for the information. You are correct on Roach. He was behind Will Compton Who started at MLB for NU in 2011/2012. Roach was the #1 LB to start in 2013, but injured his foot doing drills before the season started. A Lis Franc is typically career ending for many athletes, but he rehabed well and came back. For 2014 Roach shared time with Banderras until it was decided that Roach was the better LB and so he then started the remaking 6 games and finished well.
In 2014, the Saints were 31st in the NFL on defense. In 2015, the Saints were 31st in the NFL on defense. They didn't take a "nose dive" because of Stephon Anthony, they continued to be the exact same as they were, a bad defense with a TERRIBLE defensive coordinator, who wasn't just needing a linebacker to shore up their one weak spot.
I'll send it back at you. Look at Cedric Ogbuehi doing nothing while Bodine and Smith were beaten senseless. I'd personally rather have the 112 tackles, 1 sack, 5 Pdef, 1 INT, 2 FF of a rookie LB who managed to play 93% of the defensive snaps.
Pro Day times =/= combine times. Pro Day times are almost always quicker. Example? Ryan Shazier ran a "4.36" at his Pro Day. That would have made him the 4th fastest person at the entire combine, for all positions. He also was listed at 6'2 in Ohio St, was 6'1 at the combine. Was 237 at the combine, 230 at Ohio St.
Trevor Roach:
2014 Season
Roach had an outstanding senior season, taking over the starting MIKE linebacker role at mid-season and ranking among the Blackshirts' top tacklers. Roach played in every regular-season game and started the final six games of the 2014 campaign. He missed the Holiday Bowl because of a foot injury. His play as a senior capped a successful career for Roach on and off the field. A former walk-on, Roach was a factor for the NU defense throughout his career. Roach finished 2014 with 63 tackles, including 32 solo stops and seven tackles for loss. He added a sack, two fumble recoveries and a fumble caused. Roach had at least six tackles five times, including 18 tackles at Michigan State, the most for any Husker defender this season. Roach also had four tackles for loss against the Spartans, the most for a Nebraska player this season. Off the field, Roach continued to excel. He earned Academic All-Big Ten honors for the third straight season. Roach earned his degree in finance/management in December.Florida Atlantic: Returned to the field after missing all of 2013 with injury... totaled four tackles, including a TFL... added a pass break-up and a QB hurry. McNeese State: Saw time off the bench but didn't record any stats. Fresno State: Made three tackles, all solo stops, off the bench. Miami: Recorded six tackles off the bench and forced a fumble of Duke Johnson in the third quarter that was returned for a touchdown by Josh Mitchell. Illinois: Saw time off the bench and made one tackle. Michigan State: Made his first career start and finished with a career-high 18 tackles, bettering his seven tackles against Tennessee-Chattanooga in the 2011 season opener... also had a career-high four TFLs for nine yards. Northwestern: Led NU in tackles for the second straight game with 10 stops... notched his first sack of the year, a seven-yard loss. Rutgers: Produced six tackles, including a TFL... added his second pass break-up of the season. Purdue: Started and notched one tackle. Wisconsin: Recorded three tackles and forced one of Wisconsin's four fumbles. Minnesota: Recorded three tackles against the Gophers. Iowa: Finished third on the team with eight tackles... also recovered a fumble and notched his second QB hurry of the season. USC: Did not play because of injury.
2013 Season
Roach missed the 2013 season because of injury.
2012 Season
Played in six games and made five tackles. He had three tackles in NU's win over Idaho State and made two stops against Minnesota. He split a sack against Idaho State.
2011 Season
Played in five games, and had seven tackles and two tackles for loss, all in the opener against Chattanooga. He also saw action against Washington, Wisconsin, Ohio State and South Carolina. He was slowed by injury during the second half of the season.
2010 Season
Roach redshirted and worked on the scout team in his first season in 2010.
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- So he redshirted.
- Next year he played in 5 games, got 7 tackles, then got hurt.
- Next year he played in 6 games, got 5 tackles.
- Next year he missed the entire season with injury.
Forgive me if I don't preorder tickets for Trevor Roach's HoF induction ceremony.
- Next year he finally started some games (6) and had 63 tackles, then he missed his bowl game due to yet another injury.
(I also was never excited about the PJ Dawson pick, or honestly any 2015 pick really.)
My point with Stephon Anthony is that I hear from those who post on this board and others that if we can just get that one special player then all is well. I guess I look at things more from a team perspective rather than an individual player. Do the Bengals need to really shake things up with wholesale changes or tweak what they have? Like you, I have never been a Dawson believer, but I look at players who are on the team now and ask if there is something that is already there that we can't see, but the coaches can. I agree as well that college FB is totally different from the NFL. I've never said that Roach was a starter, but he got he got disked and being a Husker, I defended him. No problem, its all about discussing these things and that we are all passionate about the Bengals.
So lets see what happens with FA signings and the draft, watch pre-season and go from there.
On combines, its interesting that performances are not up to par for many compared to pro-day's. But with that being said Roach showed strong and so he had been given the opportunity. It's on his shoulders now, so lets see what he can do with it.
