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(03-15-2017, 10:58 AM)BengalChris Wrote: [ -> ]We may not have missed a beat, but we sure did miss some blocks, tackles, wins and the playoffs.

Agree.  We missed a lot of beats.

(03-14-2017, 10:42 PM)Burma Wrote: [ -> ]

Please tell me the source of the dinosaur quote in your sig.

Thanks.

We can't keep everyone. If we had matched either offer for Whit or Z we would have to lose something. Say Eifert has a career year and leads the league in yards and TDs. You going to be happy letting him walk thanks to Whit's deal?

(03-15-2017, 12:46 PM)Lawless_1 Wrote: [ -> ]We can't keep everyone. If we had matched either offer for Whit or Z we would have to lose something. Say Eifert has a career year and leads the league in yards and TDs. You going to be happy letting him walk thanks to Whit's deal?

With all of this money they have saved, those negotiations should be happening NOW.  That's the mistake they made with Zeitler.

(03-15-2017, 12:46 PM)Lawless_1 Wrote: [ -> ]We can't keep everyone. If we had matched either offer for Whit or Z we would have to lose something. Say Eifert has a career year and leads the league in yards and TDs. You going to be happy letting him walk thanks to Whit's deal?

There's still an excess of $20m in cap money the Bengals are holding on to. Next year, they're going to be in the $50-60m range in cap space. Signing Whit AND Eifert is easily financially feasible for this team. They have the cap. Unfortunately for us, our owner does not see it that way. He's going to place a value on Eifert and if Eifert wants more than that, they'll let him walk. It's not about cap space, because we have plenty. It's if a player will play for less than they're worth.

(03-14-2017, 11:49 PM)Beaker Wrote: [ -> ]We've lost a bunch of playes....off a 6-9-1 team.

Tie aside we lost 5 games by a combined 16 points.

(03-15-2017, 02:12 PM)Atomic Orange Wrote: [ -> ]Tie aside we lost 5 games by a combined 16 points.

Doesn't make a difference what so ever. We lost. A lot.

Case closed 

The problem is the offensive line. Nothing that we've seen from our draft picks instills confidence. Add to it a below avg Center, possibly average LG, big ? At RG. Yes we signed Andre but who knows how long before he's injured again. This is damn near like when we lost Steinbach, Braham retired, Levi Jones was recovering from injury and so was Big Willie. That season ruined Carson. Carson before that year was way better than Dalton.

Carson made Chad Johnson and TJ. Both of those guys did jack shit after they left here. After Carson destroyed his elbow and didn't get the Tommy John surgery he was never the same ever. One huge reason we were terrible this year was because of really really poor o-line play. We let the two only positives on our o-line go and kept the exact reasons why our line was horrendous.

Wash, rinse, repeat. Same shit different year. It's 100% Mike Brown and the coaching staff. They just do not get it.

(03-15-2017, 10:58 AM)BengalChris Wrote: [ -> ]We may not have missed a beat, but we sure did miss some blocks, tackles, wins and the playoffs.

Don't forget FG's and XP's.

(03-15-2017, 12:34 PM)xxlt Wrote: [ -> ]Please tell me the source of the dinosaur quote in your sig.

Thanks.

Some poor tormented soul.  It's been circulating as a meme for awhile

Original source:
http://my.umbc.edu/groups/archive/discussions/8815

It goes well with my Jesse Ventura "sexual tyranosaurus" avatar.

I doubt it is back to the 90's. We still have a lot of talent with AJ Green, Geno, Burfict, Dunlap, Iloka, Eifert, Dalton etc
and we will be adding to it. Bringing in Andre at RG could be a great move for us if he is healthy, Boling should be healthy
this year unlike last year with the shoulder so our Guards should be better in the run game.

Mangold seems like a perfect fit for us, cut, old, once was great at a position of weakness.

Og and Fisher will improve.

The main problem with this team, is the owner, coaches and the O-line, the OL could get better.

Might be a rough year this year, than we can get rid of Marv and PA.

(03-15-2017, 10:08 AM)yellowxdiscipline Wrote: [ -> ]Yea but Mike Brown still doesn't give a shit.

Apparently you are right Yellowx.

The following is the Bengals' reply to my recent letter to MB. In it I listed the many ways the Bengals' claim to be just like the Patriots, but the facts don't come close to supporting their claims. This is the boiler-plate reply I received today. Obviously someone barely glanced at my letter. So to quote Yelloxdiscipline, "Yea but Mike Brown still doesn't give a shit."



C I N C I N N AT I
BEN GA LS
 
 
March 10, 2017
 
Mr. Derrick,
 
 
You write in praise of the Patriots, especially compared to the Bengals. Probably you could include 30 other NFL teams along with the Bengals. All of us have similar results against the Patriots, who have proven themselves the class of the   NFL.
 
When we play the Patriots, I agree with you here, I never end up feeling we lose to better players. We lose to a smarter team. This credits both Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. They are superior and have the trophies to prove it. I have great regard for Bill Belichick. He is the best of his time and ranks with the best of all time.
 
We, the Bengals, are in chase mode. Our goal is to get where the Patriots have been. Our coaches and personnel group are working hard to make sure we continue to add young talent and we're confident we'll have another strong roster in place when free agency and the draft have concluded . You will be a judge of whether you think our efforts have been satisfactory.
 
Thank you for taking time to send your thoughts.
 
Sincerely,
 



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Mike Brown
 
MB:ep

(03-15-2017, 05:59 PM)Burma Wrote: [ -> ]Some poor tormented soul.  It's been circulating as a meme for awhile

Original source:
http://my.umbc.edu/groups/archive/discussions/8815

It goes well with my Jesse Ventura "sexual tyranosaurus" avatar.

Wow. I'm reminded of Walter Sobchak's line about National Socialism...

Thanks!

(03-14-2017, 11:34 PM)grampahol Wrote: [ -> ]Take a deep breath, have a drink, hell, the whole liquor store. Life goes on. 

My liver can't take a rebuild right now!

(03-14-2017, 10:31 PM)zygrot24 Wrote: [ -> ] Don't bring up the whole" it could be the 90's!!", Look around, it sure as hell looks like the 90's to me.

I'm guessing you weren't around or have zero memory of what the 1990's were actually like for this team and their fans. 

A quick refresher:

-When you get to the end of a season and have 6 wins and are both shocked and overjoyed at the experience... 
-When the Bengals blow a 3rd round pick on a pack a day smoking TE who suited up in 3 whole regular season games for them, and you don't even bat an eye...
-When the Bengals draft a 4-3 DE at 14th overall as they are transitioning to a 3-4 and announce "He's going to be a LB! Trust us!"...
-When your #1 WR is more concerned about getting hot dogs than beating coverage...
-When your ONLY weapon on either side of the ball declares flipping burgers is a superior use of his time...
-When your returning franchise QB decides to retire and announce for MNF instead of trying to build off of a 6-2 finish to the season...
-When simply hearing the names "Ogbuehui, Bodine, and Maualuga" cause you to break out in a panic sweat the way "Ki-Jana, Akili, or Klingler" do... (O.K. this one we might be there)
-When Bruce Coslet is the SECOND worst coach in your team's recent history...

THEN and only then is it even starting to get "like the 90's".

The Browns the last few years (since Haslam at least)...THAT is what the 90's were like. No direction, no clue, change coaches*/QB's like most people change socks, best player is a Tackle suffering in silence (W.Anderson/J.Thomas), honest debates over who would win in a game between the NCAA champion and the Browns (ESPN commercial: "The Miami Hurricanes would beat the Cincinnati Bengals" (God I hated that kid) )

Things aren't exactly great right now, at least from the optics. But really, they've lost a fantastic (but 36) LT to a multi-year deal, they got Steinbached (or is it Montoya'd?) again with Zeitler (even the team is the same), Peko is getting up there but it always seemed half of y'all wanted him gone anyway, and now they've lost their 3rd string HB. Of those four Zeitler and Whit really hurt, Peko would have had a reduced role if he stayed I believe, and Burkhead really only matters if Gio can't get healthy and Hill keeps running as if he's going up one (I admit I am not including ST contributions).

One last thing, if this were like the 90's, Kirkpatrick would have bailed on day 1 of free agency for the first offer that came from a city other than Cincinnati, money be damned. 

*Admittedly the Bengals didn't/don't change coaches that often.

Edit: Actually, easy way to know this isn't the 90's again...Other teams are signing Bengals free agents. That didn't happen before. In the 90's there was a different term for a Bengals player hitting free agency...Retirement.

(03-14-2017, 10:49 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: [ -> ]While this offseason and last offseason were really really bad, we are a long ways off from the 90s.

In the 90's this team was a laughing stock that beat no one. 3-13, 2-14 that was the norm. While I see the team backsliding a little again this season, I don't see a decade of losing on the horizon. Dalton, Green, Atkins, Dunlap, Dre K, Illoka, there is a lot of talent on this team still. I see one more bad season, Lewis is gone and then the team starts to climb back out of the hole.

Dalton and/or Green are gone before the rebuild happens, Green about to hit past his prime, nothing happening in this city. 

(03-15-2017, 05:45 PM)McC Wrote: [ -> ]Don't forget FG's and XP's.

Yes, and those too.

Hopefully Mikey Brown is missing some $'s for that mess.