(05-05-2020, 10:20 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: [ -> ]I stated in this thread Ross option should not be picked up.
The issue with Trubisky is he was more than a top 10 pick, the Bears traded up and gave up even more to get to that pick. If you factor that in, I think he has been a bigger disappointment tan any of the top 10 picks (or biggest misses).
A very good friend of mine is a Bears' fan and he's quite happy that they brought in Foles, along with a few of Foles' former coaches. He figures that Foles has a lock on the starting job.
As far as who's the bigger disappoinment goes I agree that the cost of Trubisky does make him a bigger disappointment. At least we just got burned for only 1 first round pick.
(05-05-2020, 10:20 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: [ -> ]I stated in this thread Ross option should not be picked up.
So is it okay for people to think Ross is a bust now or do you think people need to eat crow?
Quote:The issue with Trubisky is he was more than a top 10 pick, the Bears traded up and gave up even more to get to that pick. If you factor that in, I think he has been a bigger disappointment tan any of the top 10 picks (or biggest misses).
Is he really? Or did they just pick the wrong QB?
(05-07-2020, 08:42 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: [ -> ]So is it okay for people to think Ross is a bust now or do you think people need to eat crow?
Is he really? Or did they just pick the wrong QB?
Ross has not performed well for a top 10 pick. That is why they did not pick up his 5th year option. But, nope he is not a bust as a NFL player, a bust does not have the TD's he has in limited game action. I also won't call Jonah Williams a bust either since he was injured thus did nothing for the team in 2019.
As for Trubisky, I have no idea what you are trying to say? The Bears traded up for him and it cost them dearly, based on that he too has under performed his draft position and was a lot more costly. Lots of teams in the 2015 draft missed, some hit like KC and Texans.
I was just surprised to see 5 of 9 top picks not get 5th year option picked up. Maybe that is the norm, but I don't think it has been.
As for my thread after game 1 last year about Ross, yep I jumped the gun and made a mistake. No, noone needs to eat crow and maybe may never have to about John Ross, but I hope he comes out and plays great in 2020 since he is still a Bengal. Do you?
(05-07-2020, 08:42 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: [ -> ]So is it okay for people to think Ross is a bust now or do you think people need to eat crow?
Is he really? Or did they just pick the wrong QB?
Aren't these two statements basically two ways to say the same thing. Yes, he really was a stupid choice and yes, they obviously picked the wrong QB.
(05-07-2020, 11:49 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: [ -> ]Ross has not performed well for a top 10 pick. That is why they did not pick up his 5th year option. But, nope he is not a bust as a NFL player, a bust does not have the TD's he has in limited game action. I also won't call Jonah Williams a bust either since he was injured thus did nothing for the team in 2019.
As for Trubisky, I have no idea what you are trying to say? The Bears traded up for him and it cost them dearly, based on that he too has under performed his draft position and was a lot more costly. Lots of teams in the 2015 draft missed, some hit like KC and Texans.
I was just surprised to see 5 of 9 top picks not get 5th year option picked up. Maybe that is the norm, but I don't think it has been.
As for my thread after game 1 last year about Ross, yep I jumped the gun and made a mistake. No, noone needs to eat crow and maybe may never have to about John Ross, but I hope he comes out and plays great in 2020 since he is still a Bengal. Do you?
I think there's a very good chance that it's the new norm., that unless a player really kills it, very few fifth year options will be picked up. And it's not even that teams don't want the players. It's really all about the cost of the option.
(05-07-2020, 11:49 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: [ -> ]Ross has not performed well for a top 10 pick. That is why they did not pick up his 5th year option. But, nope he is not a bust as a NFL player, a bust does not have the TD's he has in limited game action. I also won't call Jonah Williams a bust either since he was injured thus did nothing for the team in 2019.
As for Trubisky, I have no idea what you are trying to say? The Bears traded up for him and it cost them dearly, based on that he too has under performed his draft position and was a lot more costly. Lots of teams in the 2015 draft missed, some hit like KC and Texans.
I was just surprised to see 5 of 9 top picks not get 5th year option picked up. Maybe that is the norm, but I don't think it has been.
As for my thread after game 1 last year about Ross, yep I jumped the gun and made a mistake. No, noone needs to eat crow and maybe may never have to about John Ross, but I hope he comes out and plays great in 2020 since he is still a Bengal. Do you?
I hope he plays great, but based upon what I've seen that appears to be wishful thinking.
(05-07-2020, 12:12 PM)McC Wrote: [ -> ]Aren't these two statements basically two ways to say the same thing. Yes, he really was a stupid choice and yes, they obviously picked the wrong QB.
He was drafted higher than a better QB from his own conference, the ACC. So I don't think he is the biggest disappointment, so much as just poor performance by the GM who over thunk it.
