10-31-2020, 11:04 AM
I thought Ki Jana carter was a great pick. He was a beast coming out of Penn St, but injuries destroyed his career. Can't say that was a bad pick but was bad luck.
10-31-2020, 11:04 AM
10-31-2020, 12:41 PM
Why is this so complicated.
Players like Dre and Dennard are not Busts, nor is Big Daddy. Busts are top round players who legit cant hold a starting job for a season (Production or Injury both included)
Billy Price
John Ross
Cederic Ogbeuhi
Chris Perry
Akili Smith
Reinard Wilson
Ki Jana
Klingler
1st Rounders who Left a lot to be desired? Every team has these - Production/Injury both factoring in.
Big Daddy
Levi Jones
Warrick
Pollack
Rivers
Dennard
Pretty easy to bucket these guys, IMO
Players like Dre and Dennard are not Busts, nor is Big Daddy. Busts are top round players who legit cant hold a starting job for a season (Production or Injury both included)
Billy Price
John Ross
Cederic Ogbeuhi
Chris Perry
Akili Smith
Reinard Wilson
Ki Jana
Klingler
1st Rounders who Left a lot to be desired? Every team has these - Production/Injury both factoring in.
Big Daddy
Levi Jones
Warrick
Pollack
Rivers
Dennard
Pretty easy to bucket these guys, IMO
10-31-2020, 01:40 PM
(10-30-2020, 06:55 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: [ -> ]Forgot about Cedric Ogbuehi.
A couple of Noles too, Peter Warrick and Reinhard Wilson.
....had a lot of hope for those two. Of course Warrick had some awful QB play, then got hurt.
10-31-2020, 02:42 PM
Levi Jones should never be on a busts list ever. whatever point you’re trying to make.
10-31-2020, 02:48 PM
(10-31-2020, 02:42 PM)Dean_Gilberry95 Wrote: [ -> ]Levi Jones should never be on a busts list ever. whatever point you’re trying to make.
Agree. Levi was outstanding before injuries accumulated.
10-31-2020, 02:54 PM
(10-31-2020, 12:41 PM)Wire22Wire Wrote: [ -> ]Why is this so complicated.
Players like Dre and Dennard are not Busts, nor is Big Daddy. Busts are top round players who legit cant hold a starting job for a season (Production or Injury both included)
Billy Price
John Ross
Cederic Ogbeuhi
Chris Perry
Akili Smith
Reinard Wilson
Ki Jana
Klingler
1st Rounders who Left a lot to be desired? Every team has these - Production/Injury both factoring in.
Big Daddy
Levi Jones
Warrick
Pollack
Rivers
Dennard
Pretty easy to bucket these guys, IMO
Eifert
10-31-2020, 04:40 PM
(10-31-2020, 12:41 PM)Wire22Wire Wrote: [ -> ]Why is this so complicated.
Players like Dre and Dennard are not Busts, nor is Big Daddy. Busts are top round players who legit cant hold a starting job for a season (Production or Injury both included)
Billy Price
John Ross
Cederic Ogbeuhi
Chris Perry
Akili Smith
Reinard Wilson
Ki Jana
Klingler
1st Rounders who Left a lot to be desired? Every team has these - Production/Injury both factoring in.
Big Daddy
Levi Jones
Warrick
Pollack
Rivers
Dennard
Pretty easy to bucket these guys, IMO
How is Pollack on left alot to be desired due to injury while Ki-Jana who had a major knee injury that changed the way he was able to play is a bust??
Seems like the identical situation. Carter showed in the pre season what he was going to be then the Lions shit show turf claimed his knee. Guy couldn't change direction like he did prior to the injury and just physically was unable to be the back he once was. That is pure shit luck not a bust like a guy like Akili Smith who just sucked.
10-31-2020, 05:39 PM
Bust versus absolutely disappointing for their draft position is a thing. Some players may not be bums, but from where they were drafted, you would hope for more. Bengals had a whole lot of those.
10-31-2020, 10:05 PM
(10-30-2020, 05:50 PM)swilson3828 Wrote: [ -> ]David Klingler
Akili Smith
John Ross
Billy Price
Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson
Ki Jana Carter
David Pollack
Andre Smith
Dre Kirkpatrick
Darquez Dennard
.......and these are the only ones I can think of, but I know there have got to be others. I know Pollack had a career ending injury, but still.....
Cincinnati is prob close to being if not being THE #1 team in the NFL in blowing first round picks
Wilkinson was not a blown. He was a decent player, although not a #1 overall caliber player. He did command a 1st and 3rd round pick in a trade, so he was miles ahead of guys like Ross who can't even be traded for a Wendy's double for Mikey boy.
Kirkpatrick was a starting CB for years and the #17 pick. That's not bad.
Dennard, same as Kirkpatrick. Dennard was a pretty good slot corner and still is.
Andre Smith started for years and once he developed he was a solid RT. Andre was a better 1st round pick than Gresham, who isn't on your list and shouldn't be.
But you forget to include Ogbuehi, David Verser, Chris Perry, Peter Warrick (one season over 800 yards, but miles better than Ross yet still very underwhelming for a top 5 pick) and Reinard Wilson (who managed 23 starts in 6 years on the team).