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(04-02-2021, 05:05 PM)pally Wrote: [ -> ]short arms though

Not really. I was listening to the guys on NFL Radio talking arm length, just the other day. It seems that the agreed upon "magic threshold" of arm length for an OT is 32.5", at 33.25" Sewell safely meets that threshold. The key isn't just arm length, but his wingspan indicates that his frame is wide, meaning that it's tough for an edge rusher to see the QB when Sewell keeps his body in front of the defender.

(04-02-2021, 05:57 PM)Burma Wrote: [ -> ]Holy **** that 10 yard split looked damn fast (the 2nd cone from the top). I tried to put a timer on it and i got 1.65 seconds (yeah it's not entirely accurate, just a rough measurement) but that would have in the neighborhood of the fastest 10 yard for all OL at the combine last year. Tristan Wirfs ran a 1.69 split and Austin Jackson had a 1.73. Average was like 1.8

I really hope they release the official split time. Pitts had a freakish 1.5 for his size.

According to the RAS card so far, the unofficial 10 yard split was 1.77 seconds.
RASRAS Information (relativeathleticscores.com)

(04-02-2021, 05:18 PM)Synric Wrote: [ -> ]Underwhelming burst drills.

Oregon OL Penei Sewell with 28.0 VJ, 9-1 BJ, and 30 BP reps.
— Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) April 2, 2021
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not for someone 330 LBs

7.8 second unofficial 3 cone

https://twitter.com/TaylorBisciotti/status/1378089646127673347

(04-02-2021, 06:02 PM)Fichidius Wrote: [ -> ]According to the RAS card so far, the unofficial 10 yard split was 1.77 seconds.
RASRAS Information (relativeathleticscores.com)

Thank you, I never saw that site before.

Still very good. 1.77 would have been 6th at the last combine. The fastest any other 330+ lineman managed was a 1.95

(04-02-2021, 05:25 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: [ -> ]Testing out really similar to Jonah so far, other than bench. Jonah had 23 reps, 28 vert and 8’4 broad.

Quite a bit better at broad jump as well. Don't want to gloss over a 9" difference. He seems to be having a good pro day. Glad the OL coach is there for a close look.

(04-02-2021, 06:15 PM)Schmitbuck Wrote: [ -> ]Quite a bit better at broad jump as well. Don't want to gloss over a 9" difference. He seems to be having a good pro day. Glad the OL coach is there for a close look.

And Sewell is 30lbs heavier than Williams

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(04-02-2021, 06:04 PM)Fichidius Wrote: [ -> ]7.8 second unofficial 3 cone

https://twitter.com/TaylorBisciotti/status/1378089646127673347

Very good. Since 2018 the only other Olineman 330+lbs who managed under 8 seconds was Orlando Brown with a 7.87 at 345lns. rest are all in the 8.1s. He's running with guys in the 299-306 range.

(04-02-2021, 06:13 PM)Burma Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you, I never saw that site before.

Still very good. 1.77 would have been 6th at the last combine. The fastest any other 330+ lineman managed was a 1.95

If you've never seen the site before (or their twitter: Mathbomb) here are Chase and Pitts' RAS scores as well. 10 is a perfect score.

Chase: 9.89 - RASRAS Information (relativeathleticscores.com)

Pitts: 9.72 - RASRAS Information (relativeathleticscores.com)

Their rankings go back to 1987. Athletically, Pitts ranks 27th out of 918 TE and Chase is 27th out of 2480 WR.

I love the picture Taylor Bisciotti took of the Bengals brass with Coach Cristobal lol.

Add in Oregon HC Cristobal! https://t.co/8hEHuqustC pic.twitter.com/nF1XUlko5r
— Taylor Bisciotti (@TaylorBisciotti) April 2, 2021

(04-02-2021, 06:19 PM)Burma Wrote: [ -> ]Very good. Since 2018 the only other Olineman 330+lbs who managed under 8 seconds was Orlando Brown with a 7.87 at 345lns. rest are all in the 8.1s. He's running with guys in the 299-306 range.

Yeah, while some are attempting to downplay Sewell's physical performance attributes, it's good to put it into relativity. Sewell moves quite well for a big man.

Coach Cristobal tells me Penei Sewell is not only the best lineman he’s ever seen. He’s undoubtedly the best PLAYER he’s ever been around.

Says he has it all. Both physically and mentally.
— Taylor Bisciotti (@TaylorBisciotti) April 2, 2021

(04-02-2021, 05:18 PM)Synric Wrote: [ -> ]Underwhelming burst drills.

Oregon OL Penei Sewell with 28.0 VJ, 9-1 BJ, and 30 BP reps.
— Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) April 2, 2021
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There aren't a lot of 330 pound players who jumped 9'1" or better.

In fact, of the more than 20k players in my DB, that only describes 22 players, 15 of which are OT, including Penei Sewell.

Includes Andrew Whitworth (334 lbs, 904 broad) and Jason Peters (336 lbs, 907 broad).
— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) April 2, 2021

(04-02-2021, 06:33 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, while some are attempting to downplay Sewell's physical performance attributes, it's good to put it into relativity. Sewell moves quite well for a big man.

Everyone is just trying to put it in perspective here are Aaron Banks numbers at a very similar body style and billed as lacking athletically.

Aaron Banks

Height: 6'5″ (79th percentile)
Weight: 325 (86th)
Arm: 32 1/4 (15th)
Hand: 10 (66th)
Vertical: 31 (84th)
Broad: 100 (33rd)
Bench: 24 reps (40th)
40-yard: 5.32 (30th)
Short shuttle: 4.89 (18th)
3-cone: 7.69 (61st)

(04-02-2021, 06:39 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: [ -> ]
There aren't a lot of 330 pound players who jumped 9'1" or better.

In fact, of the more than 20k players in my DB, that only describes 22 players, 15 of which are OT, including Penei Sewell.

Includes Andrew Whitworth (334 lbs, 904 broad) and Jason Peters (336 lbs, 907 broad).
— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) April 2, 2021

So what are his numbers on lateral movement? THAT is critical.

The primary reason so many people wouldn't consider Slater an OT was because of his 33" arms.

Sewell has now measured in at 33 1/4" arms, so we should apply the same to Sewell and say his ability to stay at OT is questionable.

Honestly, that's really disappointing. I was hoping Sewell would secure his generational talent standpoint so that the Bengals would take him. Now I think it almost has to be Chase.

(04-02-2021, 06:43 PM)Joelist Wrote: [ -> ]So what are his numbers on lateral movement? THAT is critical.

Penei Sewell's #RAS with cone added in, very hard to see him landing anywhere but in elite territory with how he's tested so far. Much as expected.https://t.co/YftnGl7Zal #RAS pic.twitter.com/mu9GzQfHDf
— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) April 2, 2021

For some context with Penei Sewell, while his 7.80 cone time is above average for OT, it's only just above average.

For both all players 330 lbs and all OT over 330, though?

It'd be about 88th percentile.
— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) April 2, 2021

(04-02-2021, 06:54 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: [ -> ]
For some context with Penei Sewell, while his 7.80 cone time is above average for OT, it's only just above average.

For both all players 330 lbs and all OT over 330, though?

It'd be about 88th percentile.
— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) April 2, 2021

The same NFL Radio guys that were talking about arm length, were also talking about relativity of speed/agility measurements. They said it's really only to confirm that what you saw on the tape was not a fluke, and that the athlete actually has the demonstrable physical abilities to replicate it as a pro.

(04-02-2021, 06:59 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: [ -> ]The same NFL Radio guys that were talking about arm length, were also talking about relativity of speed/agility measurements. They said it's really only to confirm that what you saw on the tape was not a fluke, and that the athlete actually has the demonstrable physical abilities to replicate it as a pro.

Yup and clearly Sewell does. He is going to be a monster in the NFL for about 10 years. Hopefully it is here.

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