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(04-20-2021, 03:12 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: [ -> ]Hoping we still grab this guy and Kerrigan...

Pass on Kerrigan we need a pure rusher bring hurst in and Ingram in. Problem solved

(04-21-2021, 01:52 PM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: [ -> ]Pass on Kerrigan we need a pure rusher bring hurst in and Ingram in.  Problem solved

Kerrigan has been a better pass rusher in his career compared to Ingram.
Kerrigan entered the league in 2011 and has 95.5 sacks.
Ingram entered the league in 2012 and has 49.0 sacks.

I'd happily accept either one, but I'd lean toward Kerrigan if both were willing to come to the Bengals.

Kerrigan might be more interested to come to the Bengals given Cincy is only a 2 hour drive from where he grew up (Muncie, IN).

(04-21-2021, 07:30 PM)ochocincos Wrote: [ -> ]Kerrigan has been a better pass rusher in his career compared to Ingram.
Kerrigan entered the league in 2011 and has 95.5 sacks.
Ingram entered the league in 2012 and has 49.0 sacks.

I'd happily accept either one, but I'd lean toward Kerrigan if both were willing to come to the Bengals.

Kerrigan might be more interested to come to the Bengals given Cincy is only a 2 hour drive from where he grew up (Muncie, IN).

Ur argument is not sustainable. Lawson obviously a pure pass rusher Hendrickson is not but through the start of their careers both have the same amount of sacks. The both have different styles. Kerrigan is more like Hubbard and Hendrickson where as Ingram is more like Lawson whom I’m trying to replace. Hendrickson imo replaced Dunlap

(04-21-2021, 07:30 PM)ochocincos Wrote: [ -> ]Kerrigan has been a better pass rusher in his career compared to Ingram.
Kerrigan entered the league in 2011 and has 95.5 sacks.
Ingram entered the league in 2012 and has 49.0 sacks.

I'd happily accept either one, but I'd lean toward Kerrigan if both were willing to come to the Bengals.

Kerrigan might be more interested to come to the Bengals given Cincy is only a 2 hour drive from where he grew up (Muncie, IN).

Thanks for the sacks stats Ocho.

Him being closer to where he grows up and getting more snaps than in Washington are excellent reasons for him to sign here
over Washington. I would be happy with either one as well. I like Ingram a lot too for us.

(04-21-2021, 10:33 PM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: [ -> ]Ur argument is not sustainable.  Lawson obviously a pure pass rusher Hendrickson is not but through the start of their careers both have the same amount of sacks.  The both have different styles.  Kerrigan is more like Hubbard and Hendrickson where as Ingram is more like Lawson whom I’m trying to replace.  Hendrickson imo replaced Dunlap

Good argument, sacks aren't everything that is for damn sure. Would love Ingram just the same.

(04-21-2021, 10:33 PM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: [ -> ]Ur argument is not sustainable.  Lawson obviously a pure pass rusher Hendrickson is not but through the start of their careers both have the same amount of sacks.  The both have different styles.  Kerrigan is more like Hubbard and Hendrickson where as Ingram is more like Lawson whom I’m trying to replace.  Hendrickson imo replaced Dunlap

So, you're saying that you prefer occasional lightning, as opposed to sustained thunder causing twice as much havok?

(04-21-2021, 10:33 PM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: [ -> ]Ur argument is not sustainable.  Lawson obviously a pure pass rusher Hendrickson is not but through the start of their careers both have the same amount of sacks.  The both have different styles.  Kerrigan is more like Hubbard and Hendrickson where as Ingram is more like Lawson whom I’m trying to replace.  Hendrickson imo replaced Dunlap

So you're saying Ingram is a better pure pass rusher than Kerrigan, even though Kerrigan has nearly double the amount of sacks in the same timespan of their careers?

EDIT - From pro-football-reference, here are the total pressures for each since 2018.
Kerrigan:
2018 - 30 (470 pass rush snaps)
2019 - 25 (305 pass rush snaps)
2020 - 13 (238 pass rush snaps)
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Total - 68 (1013 pass rush snaps)

Ingram:
2018 - 31 (547 pass rush snaps)
2019 - 23 (375 pass rush snaps)
2020 - 12 (236 pass rush snaps)
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Total - 66 (1158 pass rush snaps)

I'd take someone like Kerrigan over Ingram every time, as I don't agree Ingram is the better pure pass rusher. Also, I'd take someone who can do more than just pass rush, as you never know when Hendrickson and/or Hubbard gets injured and misses time.

(04-22-2021, 09:41 AM)ochocincos Wrote: [ -> ]So you're saying Ingram is a better pure pass rusher than Kerrigan, even though Kerrigan has nearly double the amount of sacks in the same timespan of their careers?

EDIT - From pro-football-reference, here are the total pressures for each since 2018.
Kerrigan:
2018 - 30 (470 pass rush snaps)
2019 - 25 (305 pass rush snaps)
2020 - 13 (238 pass rush snaps)
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Total - 68 (1013 pass rush snaps)

Ingram:
2018 - 31 (547 pass rush snaps)
2019 - 23 (375 pass rush snaps)
2020 -  12 (236 pass rush snaps)
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Total - 66 (1158 pass rush snaps)

I'd take someone like Kerrigan over Ingram every time, as I don't agree Ingram is the better pure pass rusher. Also, I'd take someone who can do more than just pass rush, as you never know when Hendrickson and/or Hubbard gets injured and misses time.

Pretty even on the pressures and clearly the better finisher is Kerrigan. Thanks for this Ocho.

He's a 49er

(04-22-2021, 09:09 PM)Thefinalcut813 Wrote: [ -> ]He's a 49er

Sad.
Curious to know the contract details, but I know the Bengals have plenty to sign him.
Unless they plan to get a DT on Day 2, I doubt a draft pick would be as good as him.
If they bring Atkins back for as much or more than what Hurst signed for, I'll be irritated.

(04-22-2021, 09:09 PM)Thefinalcut813 Wrote: [ -> ]He's a 49er

Damn it.