07-31-2023, 02:59 PM
.@RapSheet on @PatMcAfeeShow discussing Joe Burrow’s contract:
— Drew Garrison (@DrewGarrison) July 31, 2023
“I would imagine strong lines in the sand are being drawn. I don’t get the sense that anything is imminent.”
07-31-2023, 02:59 PM
07-31-2023, 03:57 PM
(07-27-2023, 12:47 PM)Nepa Wrote: [ -> ]If a man can't take care of his family making tens of millions each year (40 million? 50 million? 60 million? per year!), and with the name recognition to get more in other ways, then something is wrong.
If he cares about his teammates, his team, and fans, then those should be part of the equation as well. And if he has a winning team, and sacrifices somewhat to have a winning team, then his name recognition and favorability rating will benefit as well. As will his enjoyment from coming to work every day.
In other words, it's not just money, money, money. That may be the agent's number one motivation. But a player has many factors to consider. I trust Joe will take in all these factors.
In the grand scheme of things, it does all boil down to money when you are a top 5 player.
Now, the best way to "take care of the team" and his "family" is to structure his deal so that the big money hits later in the contract when the cap is higher or take more of the contract as a signing bonus.
I was never in the boat that Burrow needed or should take less money. I was and still am in the boat that he needs to do as much as he can to get his money AND structure the deal right so that the team can hold onto as many players as they can.
07-31-2023, 04:13 PM
(07-27-2023, 12:47 PM)Nepa Wrote: [ -> ]If a man can't take care of his family making tens of millions each year (40 million? 50 million? 60 million? per year!), and with the name recognition to get more in other ways, then something is wrong.
If he cares about his teammates, his team, and fans, then those should be part of the equation as well. And if he has a winning team, and sacrifices somewhat to have a winning team, then his name recognition and favorability rating will benefit as well. As will his enjoyment from coming to work every day.
In other words, it's not just money, money, money. That may be the agent's number one motivation. But a player has many factors to consider. I trust Joe will take in all these factors.
Here's the thing.
Mahomes only makes a "modest" $45 mill APY. But when he signed that deal in 2020, he became the highest-paid QB at that time.
Now, he's 7th in APY. Behind Herbert ($52.5 mill), Jackson ($52 mill), Hurts ($51 mill), Wilson ($48.5 mill), Murray ($46.1 mill), and Watson ($46 mill).
Bengals would be wise to make Burrow the highest-paid QB now, but do it for something like Mahomes did, which was 10 years.
After just the first 2-3 years of that new deal, it's going to seem like a bargain.
At the end of the day, it's not Burrow's responsibility to figure out how to put a team together with an expensive QB and the salary cap.
It's up to the Bengals FO to figure that out.
If letting another guy walk so the Bengals keep Burrow, I'm doing that all day every day.
A new WR, DB, heck even pass rusher is easier to find compared to a franchise QB.
07-31-2023, 04:14 PM
(07-31-2023, 02:59 PM)pally Wrote: [ -> ].@RapSheet on @PatMcAfeeShow discussing Joe Burrow’s contract:
— Drew Garrison (@DrewGarrison) July 31, 2023
“I would imagine strong lines in the sand are being drawn. I don’t get the sense that anything is imminent.”
Oof… I doubt the difference is all that much in the grand scheme Of things.
07-31-2023, 04:18 PM
(07-31-2023, 02:59 PM)pally Wrote: [ -> ].@RapSheet on @PatMcAfeeShow discussing Joe Burrow’s contract:
— Drew Garrison (@DrewGarrison) July 31, 2023
“I would imagine strong lines in the sand are being drawn. I don’t get the sense that anything is imminent.”
"I would imagine"
.....
when blind speculation becomes news
07-31-2023, 04:44 PM
(07-31-2023, 02:59 PM)pally Wrote: [ -> ].@RapSheet on @PatMcAfeeShow discussing Joe Burrow’s contract:
— Drew Garrison (@DrewGarrison) July 31, 2023
“I would imagine strong lines in the sand are being drawn. I don’t get the sense that anything is imminent.”
Key phrase is "I would imagine" ... very likely, he has no actual idea and this is open speculation. Mind you, I didn't see the show so don't know if context is important here.
07-31-2023, 04:46 PM
There's a lot of speculation because of how tight the Bengals inner circle is. Stuff just doesn't leak...which is good.
The Hendrickson extension came out of absolute nowhere...I expect the Burrow extension to be very similar.
The Hendrickson extension came out of absolute nowhere...I expect the Burrow extension to be very similar.
08-03-2023, 10:25 AM
Today is the day. I don’t have any inside info or anything. I am simply just going to speak it into existence. (This has worked for a bengals comeback before, in real time.)
08-03-2023, 03:15 PM
(08-03-2023, 10:25 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: [ -> ]Today is the day. I don’t have any inside info or anything. I am simply just going to speak it into existence. (This has worked for a bengals comeback before, in real time.)
Say something about Burrow playing for 150k a year.
08-03-2023, 04:19 PM
(08-03-2023, 10:25 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: [ -> ]Today is the day. I don’t have any inside info or anything. I am simply just going to speak it into existence. (This has worked for a bengals comeback before, in real time.)
We will see, hope so and hope it is for like 10 years like Ocho said.
08-10-2023, 01:25 PM
Bump, can we get this done already?
08-10-2023, 01:57 PM
They will do Tee Higgins and then Burrow.
I am guessing... if I had to... that Burrow told them to get Tee & Logan done and then he will take what's left in a way that works and makes sense.
I also wonder if Tee not practicing against Packers means signing is close? They have sat guys out of camp practices while deals were on the cusp before. Makes sense because if the player gets hurt at practice is screws up everything they've all worked on. It's unfair to the player, for sure, to take that risk.
I am guessing... if I had to... that Burrow told them to get Tee & Logan done and then he will take what's left in a way that works and makes sense.
I also wonder if Tee not practicing against Packers means signing is close? They have sat guys out of camp practices while deals were on the cusp before. Makes sense because if the player gets hurt at practice is screws up everything they've all worked on. It's unfair to the player, for sure, to take that risk.
08-10-2023, 02:01 PM
Remember who Tee Higgins agent is. Same one as Jessie Bates and Deshaun Watson. I imagine he is trying to get a very large amount of guaranteed money for Tee and I won't be shocked if we go into the year with no deal in place for Tee. I hope im wrong but that agent is a nightmare when it comes to building championship rosters.
08-10-2023, 02:33 PM
(08-10-2023, 02:01 PM)BurrowTheGoat Wrote: [ -> ]Remember who Tee Higgins agent is. Same one as Jessie Bates and Deshaun Watson. I imagine he is trying to get a very large amount of guaranteed money for Tee and I won't be shocked if we go into the year with no deal in place for Tee. I hope im wrong but that agent is a nightmare when it comes to building championship rosters.
That’s all true but it depends on their client. Bates & Watson obviously wanted show me the money. Not a given Tee is that way. But who knows
08-10-2023, 05:00 PM
(08-10-2023, 01:57 PM)PDub80 Wrote: [ -> ]They will do Tee Higgins and then Burrow.
I am guessing... if I had to... that Burrow told them to get Tee & Logan done and then he will take what's left in a way that works and makes sense.
I also wonder if Tee not practicing against Packers means signing is close? They have sat guys out of camp practices while deals were on the cusp before. Makes sense because if the player gets hurt at practice is screws up everything they've all worked on. It's unfair to the player, for sure, to take that risk.
All this might be true, maybe the FO and coaches want to see some of Iosivas in the Preseason first as well. He is about the only
player on this roster that could be a future Tee replacement if we cannot get a fair deal done for all parties involved.
(08-10-2023, 02:01 PM)BurrowTheGoat Wrote: [ -> ]Remember who Tee Higgins agent is. Same one as Jessie Bates and Deshaun Watson. I imagine he is trying to get a very large amount of guaranteed money for Tee and I won't be shocked if we go into the year with no deal in place for Tee. I hope im wrong but that agent is a nightmare when it comes to building championship rosters.
Definitely have to think about this as well. We cannot afford to pay Tee 25 mil per year. 20-21 maybe...
But we still need to be able to extend Reader and Burrow this year and Chase on down the road.
(08-10-2023, 02:33 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: [ -> ]That’s all true but it depends on their client. Bates & Watson obviously wanted show me the money. Not a given Tee is that way. But who knows
The Bengals being Tee's favorite team growing up and his friendships and the possibilities of Super Bowl wins could sway Tee into
taking a bit less yah never know. The Stains way overpaid for Watson though and rewarded the guy while he was being a scumbag.
That is different. We were never going to pay Bates, that is why we drafted Dax Hill in the first place.
08-10-2023, 07:01 PM
With the way they have been hitting on drafting rookies, this team will do just fine.
08-10-2023, 07:49 PM
(08-10-2023, 05:00 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: [ -> ]All this might be true, maybe the FO and coaches want to see some of Iosivas in the Preseason first as well. He is about the only
player on this roster that could be a future Tee replacement if we cannot get a fair deal done for all parties involved.
Oh man, this is awesome...it's felt like ages since we've had a late round pick WR to go ape over.