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Considering some of the really egregious hits that get small fines, this amount for a called-up practice squad player seems crazy

The NFL fined Bengals special teamer Stanley Morgan $43,709 for this hit on a punt return pic.twitter.com/ypXkJ3IH50

— Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) November 18, 2023

$43k is more than a gamecheck for a league minimum player ($41,667).

Practice squad league minimum (2 or less accrued years of NFL experience) is $12,000/week and practice squad veteran league minimum is $16,100/week.

One could almost think the NFL is already punishing the Bengals for ruining their New Year’s eve marquee matchup of Mahomes vs Burrow.

Good, that'll teach him to tackle inbounds next time.

so he gets fined more than twice someone did with a blow to the head and more than CHido for ripping someone's helmet off

2 #Bengals players fined for actions in Houston game.

Chidobe Awuzie fined $10,927 for unnecessary roughness (ripping an opponent’s helmet off).

Stanley Morgan fined $43,709 for unnecessary roughness.

— Jay Morrison (@ByJayMorrison) November 18, 2023

The only Houston fine was Will Anderson, $16,391 for a blow to Burrow’s head on the first play of the game.
No additional fine for Denzel Perryman beyond the suspension.

— Jay Morrison (@ByJayMorrison) November 18, 2023

(11-19-2023, 02:17 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: [ -> ]Good, that'll teach him to tackle inbounds next time.

The fine is for hitting with the crown of the helmet. In or out of bounds is irrelevant. OP’s point is the amount of the fine is excessive in comparison to others. It was the second highest fine of the week.  Hopefully reduced on appeal.

That’s insane.

(11-19-2023, 03:29 PM)SouthernFan Wrote: [ -> ]The fine is for hitting with the crown of the helmet. In or out of bounds is irrelevant. OP’s point is the amount of the fine is excessive in comparison to others. It was the second highest fine of the week.  Hopefully reduced on appeal.

After further research, it turns out fine amounts are predefined in the CBA. Something the NFLPA needs to work on.

(11-19-2023, 04:00 PM)SouthernFan Wrote: [ -> ]After further research, it turns out fine amounts are predefined in the CBA. Something the NFLPA needs to work on.

they fined him like this was a 2nd offense.  As far as I can tell 

2019- 15 yards facemask

2021-15 yards unsportsmanlike conduct

2023- 10 yards-block in the back
          15 yards-unnecessary roughness

Where is the 2nd offense for the hit?

That is unbelievably harsh. Hope the Bengals pass the hat around to pay the fine. Worst case, maybe Chad'll step up for his brother.

(11-19-2023, 04:20 PM)pally Wrote: [ -> ]they fined him like this was a 2nd offense.  As far as I can tell 

2019- 15 yards facemask

2021-15 yards unsportsmanlike conduct

2023- 10 yards-block in the back
          15 yards-unnecessary roughness

Where is the 2nd offense for the hit?

Can the second offense go back that far? That would seem to unfairly penalize players for tenure as much as for the offenses. Idk tho

makes you wonder how they will fine this play. Same player committed a horse collar and a facemask on the same play

Kevin Burkhardt: "So officially a horse-mask, on Xavier Woods."

Greg Olsen: "You know how they have like, scorigamis? I'm not sure if I've ever seen simultaneous facemask horse-collar called on the same guy at the exact same time. That might be a first."pic.twitter.com/JdH10vwQ6j

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) November 19, 2023

(11-19-2023, 04:20 PM)pally Wrote: [ -> ]they fined him like this was a 2nd offense.  As far as I can tell 

2019- 15 yards facemask

2021-15 yards unsportsmanlike conduct

2023- 10 yards-block in the back
          15 yards-unnecessary roughness

Where is the 2nd offense for the hit?

Agree completely, that’s all his career penalties according to Pro Football Reference. So, if he appeals should be reduced to first offense $21,855 or possibly a maximum of 10% of his game check. Why would the NFL make such an egregious error?  Answer = it’s the Bengals, so he must have done this before.

"Let's do Morgan a solid bring him up to earn a game check".

OK, that didn't work out. He paid $2K to play

When he appeals he will probably get the fine reduced because of his low salary. The CBA contains this language:

https://overthecap.com/collective-bargaining-agreement/article/46

Quote:On appeal, a player may assert, among other defenses, that any fine should be reduced because it is excessive when compared to the player’s expected earnings for the season in question.

Might be the first time I’ve ever felt bad for a professional athlete when it comes to finances. He doesn’t make that much. Cutting a check for $43k is gonna hurt. Would be cool to see some teammates pitch in $5k each to lessen the blow. If he wasn’t a PS call up, I would never say that. But when he’s not making much, at all, $43k is a lot.

(11-19-2023, 09:19 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: [ -> ]Might be the first time I’ve ever felt bad for a professional athlete when it comes to finances. He doesn’t make that much. Cutting a check for $43k is gonna hurt. Would be cool to see some teammates pitch in $5k each to lessen the blow. If he wasn’t a PS call up, I would never say that. But when he’s not making much, at all, $43k is a lot.

Pretty sure that's not allowed. Now he maybe could find an "unmarked envelope" in his locker, but you have to pay your own fine. 

Apparently Stanley has been fined before

Stanley Morgan said he was shocked he got fined for hit in Houston game and even more stunned so by the $46k amount. He is appealing. It’s his third career fine and he said he won his appeal to have the previous two reduced.

— Jay Morrison (@ByJayMorrison) November 20, 2023

(11-19-2023, 04:45 PM)pally Wrote: [ -> ]makes you wonder how they will fine this play.  Same player committed a horse collar and a facemask on the same play

Kevin Burkhardt: "So officially a horse-mask, on Xavier Woods."

Greg Olsen: "You know how they have like, scorigamis? I'm not sure if I've ever seen simultaneous facemask horse-collar called on the same guy at the exact same time. That might be a first."pic.twitter.com/JdH10vwQ6j

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) November 19, 2023

That's a special kind of talent right there.

(11-19-2023, 07:59 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: [ -> ]When he appeals he will probably get the fine reduced because of his low salary.  The CBA contains this language:

https://overthecap.com/collective-bargaining-agreement/article/46

You would hope.