12-07-2023, 10:57 AM
(12-07-2023, 12:14 AM)jason Wrote: [ -> ]What are they gonna do with that money instead?
Think of the FAs you could sign for $27 million. Tee is not worth half that.
(12-07-2023, 12:14 AM)jason Wrote: [ -> ]What are they gonna do with that money instead?
(12-07-2023, 10:57 AM)Chezaugie Wrote: [ -> ]Think of the FAs you could sign for $27 million. Tee is not worth half that.
(12-07-2023, 10:57 AM)Chezaugie Wrote: [ -> ]Think of the FAs you could sign for $27 million. Tee is not worth half that.
(12-07-2023, 10:57 AM)Chezaugie Wrote: [ -> ]Think of the FAs you could sign for $27 million. Tee is not worth half that.
(12-07-2023, 01:16 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: [ -> ]I'd pay him 20 mil a year as a floor, but he's probably getting more than that.
And he's MORE than worth it.
(12-07-2023, 01:16 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: [ -> ]I'd pay him 20 mil a year as a floor, but he's probably getting more than that.
And he's MORE than worth it.
(12-07-2023, 02:07 PM)3wt Wrote: [ -> ]He and Reader are where we need to start. They are very necessary. Jonah Williams next. I don't think it will be possible, but that's where I want to start.
Then we need to kill the draft
(12-07-2023, 02:24 PM)Chezaugie Wrote: [ -> ]A WR who is tier 3 tier (nfl.com), 91st in receiving yards, 50th in y/c, 57th in yards/game and will not have a 1,000 season is not worth a franchise tag price.
And for those who want to argue he is hurt feel free to use his per game stats and project possible 17 results, and he still is not a top ten WR.
I like Tee but there are too many options (and draft picks) going forward. Keep the money and start building a decent defense. I can see $20 million but a franchise tag is stretching it.
(12-07-2023, 03:32 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: [ -> ]Would love to bring back Tee, Reader and Jonah. I just don't think we will be able to afford Jonah as he may be the top RTI agree with your thoughts. The big problem the Bengals face is if they sign Tee to a large contract how much that might escalate what they will have to pay Chase. Chase will certainly have a case to be paid much more than Tee making the Bengals possibly facing paying a WR tandem $55-60 million a year (much more than the duos of Tyreek Hill/Jaylen Waddle or A.J. Brown/Devonta Smith) They have to focus on keeping Chase any any price. Even if that means letting some guys go.
in this FA and he may want to play LT still and might still be a little bitter about how we didn't tell him about Orlando. I think
George Fant or Eluemunor are much more likely in FA.
Tee having an injured and poor year only makes what we have to pay him less. We might actually be able to afford a multi year
contract for him now, yah never know. But we have to bring back Chase no matter what, so I would rather Tag Tee and trade him
or just let him test FA. He is banged up a lot, but he is a class act.
I wasn't for bringing him back for big money before this season because we need to keep the trenches strong and keep Chase
here for the long term more than anything. But there may be a way to have it all for all I know.
(12-06-2023, 02:52 PM)jason Wrote: [ -> ]Down year or not, I don't think Tee will have to take a prove it deal. In fact I think they'll tag him at least once. There's no reason to let him walk after this year. Couple of tweaks and we could be the best team in the AFC hands down next season.
(12-07-2023, 02:24 PM)Chezaugie Wrote: [ -> ]A WR who is tier 3 tier (nfl.com), 91st in receiving yards, 50th in y/c, 57th in yards/game and will not have a 1,000 season is not worth a franchise tag price.
And for those who want to argue he is hurt feel free to use his per game stats and project possible 17 results, and he still is not a top ten WR.
I like Tee but there are too many options (and draft picks) going forward. Keep the money and start building a decent defense. I can see $20 million but a franchise tag is stretching it.
(12-07-2023, 06:37 PM)Graphicguy Wrote: [ -> ]I don't buy the whole "trade him for draft picks" routine. You trade a top tier WR for a bunch of maybes. Not something I'd do. That gets you into the "always building towards tomorrow" mindset. You got Burrow. Give him top notch tools to work with.
And no....Iosivas is not that guy, nor is Trenton Irvin.
This is the time to extend him. Unfortunately, his health enters into it. But, he'll get his big pay day, just not now. His 3rd contract will be the BIG payday.
(12-07-2023, 05:52 PM)Chezaugie Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with your thoughts. The big problem the Bengals face is if they sign Tee to a large contract how much that might escalate what they will have to pay Chase. Chase will certainly have a case to be paid much more than Tee making the Bengals possibly facing paying a WR tandem $55-60 million a year (much more than the duos of Tyreek Hill/Jaylen Waddle or A.J. Brown/Devonta Smith) They have to focus on keeping Chase any any price. Even if that means letting some guys go.
(12-07-2023, 07:09 PM)casear2727 Wrote: [ -> ]Chase is waiting on Jefferson's contract, I dont think Tee has any impact. But yes, keep Chase.I agree, from Chase's perspective, he will wait for Jefferson's contract. I guess I was looking at it from the Bengals' salary cap perspective. With Burrow, Chase and Tee can they really afford 110+ million for three guys while trying to build a championship team? Those three contracts would represent almost 50% of the $225 million salary cap. Just afraid they might not be able to retain and/or sign FAs in building this team.
(12-07-2023, 05:52 PM)Chezaugie Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with your thoughts. The big problem the Bengals face is if they sign Tee to a large contract how much that might escalate what they will have to pay Chase. Chase will certainly have a case to be paid much more than Tee making the Bengals possibly facing paying a WR tandem $55-60 million a year (much more than the duos of Tyreek Hill/Jaylen Waddle or A.J. Brown/Devonta Smith) They have to focus on keeping Chase any any price. Even if that means letting some guys go.
(12-07-2023, 07:08 PM)casear2727 Wrote: [ -> ]Tag and trade is much better than letting him walk.
I'd be fine if they tagged him and sent out feelers, if what they want is not offered we play him.
With his agent I could see an extension being difficult.
(12-05-2023, 08:20 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: [ -> ]Among RBs this year, Joe Mixon is getting the 20th most yards before contact per rush and the 33rd most yards after contact per rush.
Last year he was 26th before contact and 34th after contact.
He's been below 32nd in yards after contact per carry two years in a row now. There's a limit to how hard of a runner you can be considered when you are consistently bad once contacted. The OL isn't excellent, but Mixon makes them look worse.
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As for the OP, unless they're Ja'Marr Chase or Cedric Ogbuehi levels of obviously good or bad, I always think it's pointless to judge picks until at least 2 full years have passed. I'm sure there's plenty of threads in the depths of this board about how great the Bengals draft were mid-rookie-season. Think about how excited some people were for William Jackson, Nick Vigil, and Andrew Billings. plus the usual hype for late WRs like Cody Core.
(12-07-2023, 11:18 PM)grampahol Wrote: [ -> ]Best attribute of Joe Mixon is that he very seldom leaves the ball on the ground. He's very secure with the ball. I'd like to see where he ranks with ball security. A running back that almost never fumbles is rare..
(12-07-2023, 10:26 PM)Housh Wrote: [ -> ]Tag and trade or just play him sounds good to me
Trades are really hard when guys are free agents the next year.
Couldn’t imagine getting more than a 2nd
If he was under contract i seriously believe he’d be worth a 1st
(12-08-2023, 12:23 AM)QueenCity Wrote: [ -> ]Mixon has 6 fumbles in his career... and 3 of those came in his rookie season (2017)
Zero in the last 2 years.