(05-25-2025, 10:51 PM)XsandOs Wrote: [ -> ]I find it interesting that there is no LT on the scale of Munoz, Ogden, Pace, Jones, Thomas, Roaf, Boselli at this moment in NFL.
Trent Williams is getting up there in age but he’s probably a HOFer and still one of the best when healthy. Wirfs from Tampa is also really good and if he keeps ascending will be the best for years to come.
The entire Philly line always plays great. One of the best groups of any position in the NFL.
(05-25-2025, 11:11 AM)bfine32 Wrote: [ -> ]Of course, opinions vary, but what folks miss about our LT is that last year was the first time he ever missed time due to injury, and he still played a few with a broken leg. You have BAL above them, yet Stanley has played a full season once in his 8-year career, and DEN/MIN may be the only 2 that have a better swing tackle in the league.
But difference of opinion is what makes the threads interesting.
Different view is interesting too. With Baltimore I know Ronnie Stanley was healthy in 2024 and played great and will start 2025 healthy.
I forgot to add Tampa Bay to my list too. So I'm still in that 11-17 range.
(05-25-2025, 10:51 PM)XsandOs Wrote: [ -> ]I find it interesting that there is no LT on the scale of Munoz, Ogden, Pace, Jones, Thomas, Roaf, Boselli at this moment in NFL.
Philadelphia Eagles RT Lane Johnson will be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
(05-25-2025, 11:01 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: [ -> ]Trent Williams is getting up there in age but he’s probably a HOFer and still one of the best when healthy. Wirfs from Tampa is also really good and if he keeps ascending will be the best for years to come.
The entire Philly line always plays great. One of the best groups of any position in the NFL.
(05-26-2025, 10:50 AM)Synric Wrote: [ -> ]Philadelphia Eagles RT Lane Johnson will be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
As LTs, I did think of Williams, Slater, Wirfs and Tunsil.
Eagles have a good pair of Ts, I agree.
But I do wonder with the current pass heavy league and QB protection regulations - why isn't/aren't there elite LT(s) in NFL.
There have been 30 Ts drafted since 2020.....
(05-25-2025, 05:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, I probably went a little high placing them in the Top 5. But I expect Mims to make a huge leap this year. Last year was his rookie year, and going from College playoffs, to the offseason workouts, to training Camp as the slotted backup, he still did well when thrust into the starting role.
This year he getsan off-season and reps as the first team RT during TC
Agree completely. I think Amarius could be our best RT since Willie. His balance to go with his size and strength are extremely rare.
And, as with any great OL, he is really smart, something that cannot be overstated when talking about OL.
(05-25-2025, 08:05 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: [ -> ]Even if they're around 10ish, i think the poll was 11-17? That's still good for your bookends. Now they just need to solidify that interior.
For sure, I like the Patrick and Fairchild additions, but we should grab Risner or Scherff if they are serious about solidifying the OL.
I went with 11-17, as Brown is a good not great LT and Mims showed some really good promise at RT last year. In depth they have Cody Ford who showed the role wasn't over his head for a few games last season and then not much else. Hopefully the rookie Rivers steps up and can be additional depth at one of those spots.
(05-26-2025, 12:42 PM)XsandOs Wrote: [ -> ]But I do wonder with the current pass heavy league and QB protection regulations - why isn't/aren't there elite LT(s) in NFL.
Seems more and more guys on the DL will move around, or teams will get 2 DEs. So there's less distinction in value between LT and RT than there used to be.
The 2nd highest paid T in the league is a RT. 2 of the top 5 are RTs. There's still some priority towards LT today, but it sure seems to be shrinking.
Plus probably the college game just not preparing OL as well as it used to.
(05-26-2025, 07:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: [ -> ]Seems more and more guys on the DL will move around, or teams will get 2 DEs. So there's less distinction in value between LT and RT than there used to be.
The 2nd highest paid T in the league is a RT. 2 of the top 5 are RTs. There's still some priority towards LT today, but it sure seems to be shrinking.
Plus probably the college game just not preparing OL as well as it used to.
All of this. Ends and pass rushing Linebackers move all over the place now and just seem to be ahead of the new Tackles coming into the NFL.
Happy I think we got a good young one in Mims.
(05-26-2025, 07:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: [ -> ]Seems more and more guys on the DL will move around, or teams will get 2 DEs. So there's less distinction in value between LT and RT than there used to be.
The 2nd highest paid T in the league is a RT. 2 of the top 5 are RTs. There's still some priority towards LT today, but it sure seems to be shrinking.
Plus probably the college game just not preparing OL as well as it used to.
(05-27-2025, 01:18 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: [ -> ]All of this. Ends and pass rushing Linebackers move all over the place now and just seem to be ahead of the new Tackles coming into the NFL.
Happy I think we got a good young one in Mims.
All good points - makes sense.