(04-08-2021, 02:58 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: This a pretty good break down of potential nominees.

I think this means Geno gets the honor after he retires because he is going to be a HOFer.

I also think Whitworth should be added to the last tier.

Agreed on Whitworth.  I think Geno and Green belong in that second group.  I just left them out because I think they can afford to stew for a while behind guys who haven't been given their due for decades.  

(04-08-2021, 02:58 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: This a pretty good break down of potential nominees.

I think this means Geno gets the honor after he retires because he is going to be a HOFer.

I also think Whitworth should be added to the last tier.

They both belong in Tier 1, not Tier 3.

Pouncing Tiger logo should go up there.....

As well as WHODEY who has NEVER missed a game that i know of.


and of course the Legendary Names like

Tom Nelson
Dan Lefevor.
and
Matt Scott

Very happy for the guys to finally be recognized for their greatness playing for the Bengals.

I'm fine with it be small classes, just as long as it continues. As most have said, I think Ken and Ken are front of line. Considering they should be at least in the HOF short list, they should be a lock for the Bengals Ring of Honor.

Not sure who finally got this done/approved, but good for them.

(04-08-2021, 02:14 PM)jason Wrote: That does make it hard. I definitely remember Krumrie, but I was young. I was in 8th grade when he got injured in the Super Bowl. I know he was good, but I really don't know who his peers were. How did he stack up league wide? Things like that.

I still like the idea of it being exclusive though. We've had a lot of really good players over the years, but only so many greats.

How funny, so was I...

I am think Riley and K. Anderson.

(04-08-2021, 02:05 PM)Sled21 Wrote: See, this right here is what worries me. I don't know how old the OP is, or really how old most season ticket holders are nowadays (since they are the ones going to get to vote), but the whole "nobody else till Geno and AJ" deal is a slap in the face to dominant players like Tim Krumrie, who most people on here probably didn't get to watch play. If Krumie didn't break his leg in the 1st half of that Super Bowl, we would have won it. He was a legit sideline to sideline nose tackle. 

Krumrie and maybe Brookes too.  Krumrie was country strong mean dude.  

(04-08-2021, 03:53 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I know he would go sideline to sideline prior to his injury, after he broke his leg it was pretty much from end to end of the line. Simply put, he was a beast.


Wyche pretty much knew the game was over as well..... legs just aren't supposed to bend that way.....

Did you know he refused to be medicated when they reset the bone? He wanted to remember being at the Super Bowl. That's a man's man.

Did I miss anything about numbers getting retired? Will they be?

(04-08-2021, 04:55 PM)kdgjr Wrote: Did I miss anything about numbers getting retired? Will they be?

havent seen anything on that.

While I understand the Idea of retiring numbers...

I like seeing them on the field again with new stories.

(04-08-2021, 05:22 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: havent seen anything on that.

While I understand the Idea of retiring numbers...

I like seeing them on the field again with new stories.

Agreed, and there are only so many numbers. The only number I would consider retiring if it were up to me would be Munoz's

Lemar Parrisg deserves to get in before anyone but Ken Anderson.  

Ken Riley was a very good player, but he never held any NFL career records.  Parrish held the career return td record for 20 years until Deion Sanders passed him.  He is still 5th in NFL history.  He also has the highest single season punt return average since the AFL/NFL merger (18.8 in 1974 which is the 8th best mark in league history).

He went to 6 Pro Bowls (as a CB not return man) for the Bengals and 2 more times for the Redskins.  He was First Team All-Pro in 1979 and 2nd team in 1980 (also as CB) for Washington.  He was ProFootballReference's First Team All-Decade CB for the 1970's. (Riley was 2nd team)

Parrish has a Hall-of-Fame resume yet you never even hear his name mentioned as one of the great CBs/Return men.  That is because he got into some trouble with drugs after leaving the NFL and was blackballed.

Two guys who come to mind who had brilliant but brief careers: Mike Reid and Tommy Casanova.

(04-08-2021, 06:19 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Lemar Parrisg deserves to get in before anyone but Ken Anderson.  

Ken Riley was a very good player, but he never held any NFL career records.  Parrish held the career return td record for 20 years until Deion Sanders passed him.  He is still 5th in NFL history.  He also has the highest single season punt return average since the AFL/NFL merger (18.8 in 1974 which is the 8th best mark in league history).

He went to 6 Pro Bowls (as a CB not return man) for the Bengals and 2 more times for the Redskins.  He was First Team All-Pro in 1979 and 2nd team in 1980 (also as CB) for Washington.  He was ProFootballReference's First Team All-Decade CB for the 1970's.

Parrish has a Hall-of-Fame resume yet you never even hear his name mentioned as one of the great CBs/Return men.  That is because he got into some trouble with drugs after leaving the NFL and was blackballed.

I'm not arguing that Parrish was a good player, he certainly was but I'm confused on how he held the return TD record?

In his career: 

4 INTs returned for TDs
3 Fumbles returned for TDs
1 Kick off return for TD
4 Punts returned for TD

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/ParrLe00.htm

Are they saying all returns combined? Cause it can't be for any single one of these stats, none of them are super impressive.

I am voting for Chad & Ken Riley.

The 2 QBs not only lost their big chances, but I always viewed Boomer as a whiney crybaby and Ken Anderson went to the enemy and helped coach the Rapist. Not saying they shouldn't get in... eventually. Just saying that those two can wait it out and sweat a little.

(04-08-2021, 04:07 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Pouncing Tiger logo should go up there.....

As well as WHODEY who has NEVER missed a game that i know of.


and of course the Legendary Names like

Tom Nelson
Dan Lefevor.
and
Matt Scott

At least Nelson was a great Teams player and was decent in pass D (horrid in Run D, way too small) AND he had that great diving pick against... Detroit, I think it was, in '09.

The other two didn't even see a snap in the regular season.

(04-08-2021, 01:35 PM)jason Wrote: Yeah see? Others have come flooding to mind since I posted that. I still think each and every one of those guys should go in it right now though... Along with Isaac Curtis. You legit cannot tell the story of the Cincinnati Bengals without them.

You are exactly right. The only thing about putting some in each year, they will have the opportunity to honor them at the stadium during a half time. I think with as long as it's been...they need to make a big deal out of it. Let's heal some wounds.

Kudos to Elizabeth Blackburn for getting this done. Munoz and Paul Brown are no brainers. To me, the next two need to be Ken Anderson and Ken Riley considering how much the team has pumped them up for the HOF recently.

(04-08-2021, 07:30 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I'm not arguing that Parrish was a good player, he certainly was but I'm confused on how he held the return TD record?

In his career: 

4 INTs returned for TDs
3 Fumbles returned for TDs
1 Kick off return for TD
4 Punts returned for TD

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/ParrLe00.htm

Are they saying all returns combined? Cause it can't be for any single one of these stats, none of them are super impressive.

All "non-offensive" tds.

You cited the same source I did.  Pro-football-reference.com.  NFL Non-Offensive Touchdowns Career Leaders | Pro-Football-Reference.com (pro-football-reference.com)  

Don't know how holding the career NFL record for 20 years is not "impressive".  

At first I was going to argue that Ken Anderson is such an obvious pick that he should be automatic like Brown and Munoz. But even though Anderson is one of the greatest Bengals of all time he is still not like Munoz who was one of the greatest of all time for the entire league.

So while everyone knows Anderson should get in the first year it is still proper to give a higher honor to Munoz.

Anderson should 100% be in the NFL Hall-of-Fame already, but the fact that we have to argue for his induction proves that Munoz was on a different level.