(05-01-2021, 12:39 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Me too, but I’m actually more upset about the Ravens getting Ben Cleveland. They already run all over us...

Hate to say it, but Bengals looking like a 4th place team in the AFC North again. The o line still sucks. The defensive front 7 is weak. Not a hot take, it’s gonna be hard to win more than 5-6 games playing in this division

(05-01-2021, 12:39 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Me too, but I’m actually more upset about the Ravens getting Ben Cleveland. They already run all over us...

Hopefully having some healthy DT's will help and some decent play calling on D.

Cause yeah, I also liked Ben Cleveland. Damn Ratbirds.

I think the main reason why I didn't talk about him much was his name.

(05-01-2021, 12:46 AM)t3r3e3 Wrote: Hate to say it, but Bengals looking like a 4th place team in the AFC North again. The o line still sucks. The defensive front 7 is weak. Not a hot take, it’s gonna be hard to win more than 5-6 games playing in this division

I think we’ll be better than Pittsburgh. Ben looked awful down the stretch.

(05-01-2021, 12:48 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Hopefully having some healthy DT's will help and some decent play calling on D.

Cause yeah, I also liked Ben Cleveland. Damn Ratbirds.

I think the main reason why I didn't talk about him much was his name.

More like Ben Baltimore

(05-01-2021, 12:46 AM)t3r3e3 Wrote: Hate to say it, but Bengals looking like a 4th place team in the AFC North again.  The o line still sucks.  The defensive front 7 is weak.  Not a hot take, it’s gonna be hard to win more than 5-6 games playing in this division

You mean with this coaching we have seen the last few years. They are young though. Bet we win more then 6 games, still isn't 
enough, need to win twice that for the HC and company to stick around. At least the team is sitting pretty good for a good new HC.

(05-01-2021, 12:46 AM)t3r3e3 Wrote: Hate to say it, but Bengals looking like a 4th place team in the AFC North again.  The o line still sucks.  The defensive front 7 is weak.  Not a hot take, it’s gonna be hard to win more than 5-6 games playing in this division

Agreed that we will be 4th but Offensive Line won't suck this year. Carmen and Rieff will be good players for us.

(05-01-2021, 12:50 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You mean with this coaching we have seen the last few years. They are young though. Bet we win more then 6 games, still isn't 
enough, need to win twice that for the HC and company to stick around. At least the team is sitting pretty good for a good new HC.

Honestly 9 or 10 wins will do it. Shit 8 wins might do it, but only because he was so damn awful mediocrity will be rewarded.

(05-01-2021, 12:50 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You mean with this coaching we have seen the last few years. They are young though. Bet we win more then 6 games, still isn't 
enough, need to win twice that for the HC and company to stick around. At least the team is sitting pretty good for a good new HC.

Zimmer is going to be our Head Coach next season!

James Hudson (as I mentioned on previous page ) would be a great pick. Alaric Jackson is another. Some like Stone Forsythe , although I would think he’s in a tier below the aforementioned two. I think people are sleeping on Hudson though. Needs development, but he has huge upside for this late in the draft.

(04-29-2021, 07:56 PM)tms Wrote: Nobody cares but here are the guys I'm targeting for different reasons. They don't all fit our system, but they all fit my tastes. :

QB: -
RB: Kenneth Gainwell (3/4), Trey Sermon (4/5), Rhamondre Stevenson (4/5), Jermar Jefferson (5/6)
WR: Rashod Bateman (1/2), Terrace Marshall (1/2), D'Wayne Eskridge (3/4), Cornell Powell (5/6), Simi Fehoko (5/6), Marlon Williams (7), Damonte Coxie (7)
TE: Tommy Tremble (3/4), Ben Mason (6/7; FB/TE), John Bates (7)
OT: Penei Sewell (1), Teven Jenkins (1), Spencer Brown (3/4), Brady Christensen (3/4), D'Ante Smith (4), Josh Ball (7), Drew Himmelman (UDFA)
IOL: Wyatt Davis (2), Creed Humphrey (2), Quinn Meinerz (3), David Moore (4), Sadarius Hutcherson (5/6), Robert Jones (5/6), Kayode Awosika (UDFA)
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DT: Osa Odighizuwa (4), Bobby Brown III (4/5)
Edge: Jaelan Phillips (2), Gregory Rousseau (1/2), Jayson Oweh (2), Ronnie Perkins (2/3), Dayo Odeyingbo (3), Quincy Roche (3), Patrick Jones II (4), William Bradley-King (6), Malcolm Koonce (7)
LB: Micah Parsons (1), Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (1), Jamin Davis (2/3), Chazz Surratt (3/4), Derrick Barnes (4)
CB: Asante Samuel Jr (2), Eric Stokes (2), Paulson Adebo (3), Benjamin St. Juste (3/4), Ifeatu Melifonwu (3/4), Kary Vincent Jr (4/5), Shakur Brown (5), Shemar Jean-Charles (6/7), Nahshon Wright (UDFA)
S: Richie Grant (2), Jevon Holland (2), Divine Deablo (3/4), Talanoa Hufanga (4), Damar Hamlin (5/6)
K: Evan McPherson (7), Riley Patterson (UDFA)
P: -
LS: Ryan Langan (1), Camaron Cheeseman (1), Turner Bernard (1), Brett Dioguardi (1), Adam Bay (1) ... j/k lol

... So if anyone else becomes a star in this league, I can't complain bc I wouldn'ta picked them myself!

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* Also, just for the record, I'd pursue the following positions:

OL * 2 1
WR * 2 1
DL * 2 1
Joker * 2 (one of these would probably be another OL, but not necessarily)

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Enjoy the draft, y'all. Let's hope we come out of it with some studs.

^ Just updating my targets here. Guys still on the board in green. Paying especially close attention to Gainwell, Jefferson, Powell, Fehoko, Coxie, D'Ante Smith, David Moore, Hutcherson, Barnes, Shakur Brown and Hufanga. If we land one of them I'll be happy, two I'll be thrilled. Here's hopin'. 

I don't think we were gonna do anything substantial this year regardless of the draft. But we have 3 4th rd picks coming and I hope we go oline with the 1st and then the other 2 there's still talent at DE that we can get a rotational developmental player and maybe a TE or safety.

(05-01-2021, 12:43 AM)bengaloo Wrote: Ok so Im hoping someone makes a list of the best players at our positions of need. Mainly OL and DL.

Guys Lance Zuerlein has at least a "Good backup who could become a starter" grade

T-Stone Forsythe, Jaylon Moore, Josh Ball

G-Trey Smith, Deonte Brown, Royce Newman, Jared Hocker

C-Michal Menet

Edge-Chris Rumph II, Charles Snowden, Jordan Smith, Patrick Johnson

DT-Bobby Brown III, Tyler Shelving, Jay Tufele, Daviyon Nixon, Jaylen Twymen

WR-Cade Johnson, Tylan Wallace, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Cornell Powell, Tamorrian Terry, Austin Watkins

RB-Michael Carter, Rhamondre Stevens, Kenneth Gainwell

LB-Jabril Cox, Dylan Moses, Buddy Johnson, Cameron Mcgrone

Well we got the best WR to come out in a while, a very promising OG and a pass rusher who is a beast with a high ceiling plus 2 more 4th round picks. I cant grade drafts, but it could be much worse.

I'd like to see Jabril Cox in the 4th also with another lineman.

(05-01-2021, 12:49 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I think we’ll be better than Pittsburgh. Ben looked awful down the stretch.

It’s be nice to beat Shittsburgh in 2021. The o-line and d-line still seem pretty weak. I want to see improvement, but it’s hard to see more than 5-7 wins.

(05-01-2021, 12:55 AM)Dr.Z Wrote: James Hudson (as I mentioned on previous page ) would be a great pick. Alaric Jackson is another. Some like Stone Forsythe , although I would think he’s in a tier below the aforementioned two. I think people are sleeping on Hudson though. Needs development, but he has huge upside for this late in the draft.

Sorry to quote myself , but I’ll add D’ante Smith as well. Still surprised at the seemingly lack of buzz on Hudson for the next pick.

Edit to add *Trey Smith (thought he had been taken for some reason)
* Royce Newman (could play guard/tackle)

The sky hasn’t fallen

(05-01-2021, 01:00 AM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: I'd like to see Jabril Cox in the 4th also with another lineman.

Jabril is a great coverage LB, fast, I like him, but we have a whole bunch of coverage LBs.  Need more run stopping and tackling imo.

(05-01-2021, 12:59 AM)Whatever Wrote: Guys Lance Zuerlein has at least a "Good backup who could become a starter" grade

T-Stone Forsythe, Jaylon Moore, Josh Ball

G-Trey Smith, Deonte Brown, Royce Newman, Jared Hocker

C-Michal Menet

Edge-Chris Rumph II, Charles Snowden, Jordan Smith, Patrick Johnson

DT-Bobby Brown III, Tyler Shelving, Jay Tufele, Daviyon Nixon, Jaylen Twymen

WR-Cade Johnson, Tylan Wallace, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Cornell Powell, Tamorrian Terry, Austin Watkins

RB-Michael Carter, Rhamondre Stevens, Kenneth Gainwell

LB-Jabril Cox, Dylan Moses, Buddy Johnson, Cameron Mcgrone

Thank you for posting this. With 3 picks in the 4th we are bound to end up with a couple or three of these guys. Its funny because I've thought for some reason that Stone Forsythe might be a guy we target in later rounds even though I never picked him in a mock simulator.

I would be happy with Trey Smith, Deonte Brown, most of those DT's, Cox might not be a bad pickup since Bynes is gone. Cade Johnson is a playmaker and it would be hard to not like getting him. He could replace Erickson and be an upgrade imo.

(05-01-2021, 12:59 AM)Whatever Wrote: Guys Lance Zuerlein has at least a "Good backup who could become a starter" grade

T-Stone Forsythe, Jaylon Moore, Josh Ball

G-Trey Smith, Deonte Brown, Royce Newman, Jared Hocker

C-Michal Menet

Edge-Chris Rumph II, Charles Snowden, Jordan Smith, Patrick Johnson

DT-Bobby Brown III, Tyler Shelving, Jay Tufele, Daviyon Nixon, Jaylen Twymen

WR-Cade Johnson, Tylan Wallace, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Cornell Powell, Tamorrian Terry, Austin Watkins

RB-Michael Carter, Rhamondre Stevens, Kenneth Gainwell

LB-Jabril Cox, Dylan Moses, Buddy Johnson, Cameron Mcgrone

Royce Newman is a guy i've had my eye on in the 4th.

(05-01-2021, 12:50 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You mean with this coaching we have seen the last few years. They are young though. Bet we win more then 6 games, still isn't 
enough, need to win twice that for the HC and company to stick around. At least the team is sitting pretty good for a good new HC.

7-10 would be a step forward. Problem is the FO does not seem to value the lines. The Bengals current starter and reserve groupings on the lines are meh at best. Burrow only has 4 years until his contract starts becoming a drain on the cap. Aggressive moves this offseason/draft are warranted. Instead we have the standard lukewarm approach.