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PFF Grades - Week 7
#21
Adeniji is definitely MUCH better at T than G.
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(10-24-2022, 02:43 PM)pally Wrote:  


people were really laughing When I suggested the line would be better if Collins went to LG, and Adeniji moved to RT
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#23
(10-24-2022, 02:46 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Adeniji is definitely MUCH better at T than G.



Definitely....but T is the position he played at Kansas, so....

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Hope the line keeps improving because the sky's the limit if they do!

Even if they do have a solid rest of the year, I hope we still go all-out to improve it in the offseason because Burrow's worth it.

Tufele impressed me! He's a force and gets pressure! Hopefully his ceiling is even higher and he ends up being great!
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(10-24-2022, 02:46 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Adeniji is definitely MUCH better at T than G.
Playing out of position in high profile games against top notch talent can make you look worse than you really are.
(10-24-2022, 03:19 PM)Wyche Wrote: Definitely....but T is the position he played at Kansas, so....

The first NFL game that Joe Burrow was not sacked was Adeniji's first career start against Tennessee at LT. Watching Locked On Bengals when he came back from injury last year and filled in at RG, it was kind of a last minute thing for him. The Bengals didn't expect Carman to struggle so Adeniji was still prepping for playing T until shortly before coming back when the Bengals asked him to focus on RG. When he came back and was inserted in the starting lineup in practice, they had less mistakes and they had less stoppages of practice to explain the play to Carman. This gave them smoother run sessions that now had about 10-12 more snaps per practice and the results eventually showed at the end of the season.

I laughed at people saying they never wanted to see him in stripes again. You need guys on their rookie deals in order to keep your big money guys. For a 6th rounder to stick around into his third season and probably a 4th season next year says something. He's only 24 years old with starts at multiple positions on the line and has post season experience. Sounds like a guy I'd like to have coming off of the bench.
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(10-24-2022, 02:12 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: Was about to ask about Apple.

I don’t revile him the way most do, but that was a really, really bad brain lapse yesterday. That can’t happen.

That 75-yard TD pass was just the first part of a terrible ending to the 1st half. Only 49 seconds left, ball on the Falcon's 25, and still the Bengals managed to give up 10 points. First the TD pass, then they give the ball back with 20 seconds left, and allow a punt return that takes the Falcons all the way to FG range.
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#27
Wonder if Zac's brother told him about Tufele after waiving him ?

If so, thanks brother, we owe you one.

Wanted Pryor to make the 53 but a great trade off Tufele for Pryor

Not to mention he is emerging at the perfect time for the Bengals
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(10-24-2022, 12:51 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Year to date: 


Offensive starters: 
Burrow: 76.7 
Mixon: 65.8
Chase: 78.9 
Higgins: 77.4
Boyd: 74.5
Hurst: 63.7
Williams: 60.8
Volson: 52.8
Karras: 63.2
Cappa: 66.7
Collins: 54.9


Defensive starters: 
Hendrickson: 84.3
Reader: 91.0
Hill: 60.6
Hubbard: 74.4
Wilson: 68.2
Pratt: 58.9
Awuzie: 72.2
Apple: 43.8
Hilton: 71.7
Bell: 66.0
Bates: 60.6


Offensive subs (in snap count order): 
Wilcox: 54.9 (147) 
Thomas: 51.3 (145) 
Perine: 68.6 (128) 
Adeniji: 60.4 (49) 

Defensive Subs (snap counts) 
Tupou: 53.2 (186)
Carter: 29.4 (160)
ADG: 58.1 (149)
Sample: 54.1 (137) 
Ossai: 51.9 (118) 
Flowers: 60.8 (72) 
Tufele: 77.6 (44)

Kind of surprised Jonah is ranked this high even
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(10-24-2022, 07:38 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Kind of surprised Jonah is even ranked this high

PFF loves them some Jonah.
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I'd like to know where all 3 sacks were blamed according to PFF because Jonah Williams scored really high but I'm positive he gave up a sack.

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(10-24-2022, 08:30 PM)Synric Wrote: I'd like to know where all 3 sacks were blamed according to PFF because Jonah Williams scored really high but I'm positive he gave up a sack.

If I had to guess one on Jonah, one on Collins, and maybe one on Burrow?
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(10-24-2022, 02:12 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: Was about to ask about Apple.

I don’t revile him the way most do, but that was a really, really bad brain lapse yesterday. That can’t happen.

I don;t over analyze play calling but we should have been in a deep 3 cover with that amount of time left.. that would have protected any breakdown of a bad play like Apple had
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(10-24-2022, 12:50 PM)Garrus Wrote: Oh dang I was hoping he did better. But for his first game I suppose that isn't too bad. 

It's hard to do worse.
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(10-24-2022, 08:30 PM)Synric Wrote: I'd like to know where all 3 sacks were blamed according to PFF because Jonah Williams scored really high but I'm positive he gave up a sack.

(10-24-2022, 08:57 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: If I had to guess one on Jonah, one on Collins, and maybe one on Burrow?

Jonah and Cappa are the only ones listed in blocking so i'd guess they gave one to Burrow.





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(10-24-2022, 11:57 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's hard to do worse.

I’m no mathematician, but I think you could definitely do worse than a 41.2 in coverage. I’d have to imagine most of the Falcons CB’s graded out worse for that game.
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(10-25-2022, 12:16 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I’m no mathematician, but I think you could definitely do worse than a 41.2 in coverage. I’d have to imagine most of the Falcons CB’s graded out worse for that game.

Surprisingly, no.

Snaps in parenthesis.

Hawkins FS - 70.5 (40)
Terrell LCB - 67.5 (6)
Armstrong RCB - 65.8 (41)
Marlow FS - 61.9 (6)
Oliver SCB - 60.3 (28)
Hall RCB - 54.4 (47)
Grant SS - 38.8 (44)





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(10-25-2022, 12:31 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Surprisingly, no.

Snaps in parenthesis.

Hawkins FS - 70.5 (40)
Terrell LCB - 67.5 (6)
Armstrong RCB - 65.8 (41)
Marlow FS - 61.9 (6)
Oliver SCB - 60.3 (28)
Hall RCB - 54.4 (47)
Grant SS - 38.8 (44)

That's the problem with PFF. One team barely gives up 100 passing yards and the other team gives up almost 500 yet the ratings are virtually the same or better for the team that almost gave up 500.

Make it make sense.
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(10-24-2022, 08:57 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: If I had to guess one on Jonah, one on Collins, and maybe one on Burrow?

One was on Mixon, one on Collins and one on Burrow. 
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(10-25-2022, 12:35 AM)TheFan Wrote: That's the problem with PFF. One team barely gives up 100 passing yards and the other team gives up almost 500 yet the ratings are virtually the same or better for the team that almost gave up 500.

Make it make sense.

Bengals coverage grades.

Hilton SCB - 81.6 (16)
Bates FS - 76.4 (20)
Awuzie RCB - 74.5 (20)
Bell SS - 65.1 (21)
Hill FS - 60.6 (2)
Flowers SS - 60.0 (1)
Taylor-Britt LCB - 41.2 (12)
Apple LCB - 29.0 (8)





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(10-25-2022, 12:31 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Surprisingly, no.

Snaps in parenthesis.

Hawkins FS - 70.5 (40)
Terrell LCB - 67.5 (6)
Armstrong RCB - 65.8 (41)
Marlow FS - 61.9 (6)
Oliver SCB - 60.3 (28)
Hall RCB - 54.4 (47)
Grant SS - 38.8 (44)

That’s absolutely wild.
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