(04-23-2023, 02:02 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: Tee.

???

(04-23-2023, 02:02 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: Tee.

Are you saying that you think that the Bengals will trade Tee Higgins for the #9 pick?  Who, pray tell do the Bengals need so badly this year, that they're willing to trade the team's second best WR option to attain? 

(04-23-2023, 09:26 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Are you saying that you think that the Bengals will trade Tee Higgins for the #9 pick?  Who, pray tell do the Bengals need so badly this year, that they're willing to trade the team's second best WR option to attain? 

I’d trade Tee for the 9th pick. Clears up cap space, and presumably they can grab the best d-lineman available

I say clears up space because he will receive a giant pay day

(04-23-2023, 09:43 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: I’d trade Tee for the 9th pick. Clears up cap space, and presumably they can grab the best d-lineman available

I say clears up space because he will receive a giant pay day

They will not even remotely consider trading Tee as Joe wants him. They will valiantly try to resign him and if they fail they will make sure Joe knows they gave it their best shot and that he agrees.

(04-23-2023, 11:04 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: They will not even remotely consider trading Tee as Joe wants him. They will valiantly try to resign him and if they fail they will make sure Joe knows they gave it their best shot and that he agrees.

First off, if what you say is true then JB has more power over a Front Office than any employee in the history of the NFL.

I'm sure Mahomes wanted Tyreek Hill and Orlando Brown, but they had to part ways with those folks for the betterment of the team. 

If we cater to JB as much as many on here suggest then we are a weak franchise and JB is a selfish person.

(04-23-2023, 01:44 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Typically, I would agree with you on that statement.  However, when you look at the situation through the same lens as Leonard Leap in post #17, you realize that the Bengals "Tackle garage" is full of cars, but most of them are junkers that are completely upside down when it comes to their trade in value compared to what is still owed on them.

If La'el Collins was a car, he'd be on a buy here-pay here lot with a salvage title..

I agree here somewhat as well. I do find it a little curious of how they were able to convince Ford that he has a legitimate shot at the starting RT job. Definitely makes one think that something is afoot. We seem to have a handful of "Ford" Pintos (pun intended...waka-waka) vying for the job of road grater. On that, I certainly agree!

(04-23-2023, 11:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: First off, if what you say is true then JB has more power over a Front Office than any employee in the history of the NFL.

I'm sure Mahomes wanted Tyreek Hill and Orlando Brown, but they had to part ways with those folks for the betterment of the team. 

If we cater to JB as much as many on here suggest then we are a weak franchise and JB is a selfish person.

They won’t keep Tee if in the end it’s not possible. Make sure that registers. They will try to resign him because both they and Joe agree about his value. But if Joe is going to take less money to keep them all together they aren’t pulling the dumb _____ moves the Packers made with Rodgers. He’s going to be a part of the discussion. Nobody said that every time they take a pee they call Joe first.

(04-24-2023, 12:34 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote:
They won’t keep Tee if in the end it’s not possible. Make sure that registers. They will try to resign him because both they and Joe agree about his value. But if Joe is going to take less money to keep them all together they aren’t pulling the dumb _____ moves the Packers made with Rodgers. He’s going to be a part of the discussion. Nobody said that every time they take a pee they call Joe first.

Yes, you nailed it.... If something is NOT POSSIBLE that means it cannot happen under any circumstances and, therefore, doesn't. 

(04-23-2023, 11:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: First off, if what you say is true then JB has more power over a Front Office than any employee in the history of the NFL.

I'm sure Mahomes wanted Tyreek Hill and Orlando Brown, but they had to part ways with those folks for the betterment of the team. 

If we cater to JB as much as many on here suggest then we are a weak franchise and JB is a selfish person.

Exactly. Joe couldn't keep his best friend on the team (no not Chase). Bates. So that's that.

(04-21-2023, 11:10 PM)jj22 Wrote: Did he tear  his other knee in rehab? I had to check the date of the o/p.

He claims he is going to be ready day one of the season. 

1. The dude is lying trying not to get cut. 

2. The dude was never hurt in the first place and never had an operation that is why we have heard nothing about it.

Tee is NOT getting traded. You guys who keep bringing this up are hilarious.

(04-24-2023, 10:48 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Tee is NOT getting traded. You guys who keep bringing this up are hilarious.

Tobin soooooo put that to rest.

(04-24-2023, 09:16 AM)jj22 Wrote: Exactly. Joe couldn't keep his best friend on the team (no not Chase). Bates. So that's that.

Ha ha Joe didn’t want Bates to hinder keeping Higgins.

Collins is at Paycor today. He said he is doing most of his rehab here in Cincinnati. His knee has no timeline but he feels he is ahead of schedule. His back feels better than ever

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I like this attitude:

When asked about the right tackle competition and Jonah Williams, La’el Collins said, “We all know that’s a part of the business. Everybody goes through the business part at some point. All it is is we’re going to be better and have depth. We’re coming and we ain’t stopping.”

Collins: “It’s not always going to be what you want or whatever the case may be. But at the same time, Jonah is going to be fine. He’s a hell of an NFL player… I got all the confidence in the world in (him)."

"How good does that sound? A deep O-Line, it doesn’t get better."

(04-23-2023, 11:04 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: They will not even remotely consider trading Tee as Joe wants him. They will valiantly try to resign him and if they fail they will make sure Joe knows they gave it their best shot and that he agrees.

That's nonsense. You don't let inmates run the asylum. Front office's don't cower in fear to players, even elite QBs. They do what's in the best interest of the team and guys that get paid millions of dollars are expected to play. 

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Collins looks like he is a bit lighter than before - maybe helping his back?

(04-24-2023, 01:19 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: That's nonsense. You don't let inmates run the asylum. Front office's don't cower in fear to players, even elite QBs. They do what's in the best interest of the team and guys that get paid millions of dollars are expected to play. 

If Joe agrees to take less salary and let it be known that he wants Tee then it will be expected to retain him. But Tobin and Zac want to anyway. Absolutely doesn’t mean it’s an edict and Joe is smart enough to realize what’s practical. I’m not even remotely suggesting that they need his approval on personnel decisions. But unlike GB with Aaron Rodgers they are darn sure going to include him on certain players.x

(04-24-2023, 11:53 AM)pally Wrote: Collins is at Paycor today.  He said he is doing most of his rehab here in Cincinnati.  His knee has no timeline but he feels he is ahead of schedule.  His back feels better than ever

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Thanks Pally. Good stuff, man if LC comes back even by midseason we are looking much better depth wise, he is a great run 
blocker when healthy. Expecting Carman to be the starter at RT opening day and be decent at the very least.

We are looking better at OL than we did last year at this time simply because Karras, Cappa, Volson all have chemistry together
now and Carman finally started looking like a good player in the Playoffs. Orlando Brown is an upgrade at LT because he can stay
healthy and is bigger and fits a Gap scheme better than Jonah and doesn't get pushed around.

Might need to give some reps to the starting OL in preseason to have Brown gain chemistry next to Volson though.

(04-24-2023, 12:25 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I like this attitude:

When asked about the right tackle competition and Jonah Williams, La’el Collins said, “We all know that’s a part of the business. Everybody goes through the business part at some point. All it is is we’re going to be better and have depth. We’re coming and we ain’t stopping.”

Collins: “It’s not always going to be what you want or whatever the case may be. But at the same time, Jonah is going to be fine. He’s a hell of an NFL player… I got all the confidence in the world in (him)."

"How good does that sound? A deep O-Line, it doesn’t get better."

Nice, saying all the right things, I like Lael, I hope he comes back better than ever.

(04-24-2023, 02:05 PM)Joelist Wrote: Collins looks like he is a bit lighter than before - maybe helping his back?

Awesome, sure hope so, him being lighter will help the healing process.