(07-11-2023, 08:36 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Prayers for your dog and your family.

Hits me at a bad time because I'm running a fundraiser for a girl that lost everything in a fire presently and all my extra money just went to that cause.

Yet if I come across any extra cash soon, will certainly donate to your family to help the dog. Love dogs.

But would certainly investigate this medicine folks are saying, per they are claiming it cures in lieu of just buying time. However I know nothing about it so can not really weigh in on that at this time.  

To Leon, you gave your opinion on this matter and now are just being redundant at a sensitive time. Not all people are as used to losing animals as a farmer may be, and certainly they become our family members. No reply is necessary.

Once again prayers and good vibes.

why did you even bring my name up? plus you pretty much said the same thing i did. go for the medicine the docs aint telling him about cause they want to keep it a secret. so why go after me and then do have the same advise. what the heck

i found that med the other 2 guys taled about. you can cure your dogs cancer for about 70 bucks on amazon

https://www.chewy.com/fenbendazole-compounded-oral-oil/dp/573062?utm_id=401694976&msclkid=7c244060942a16c4d7ea24cd7d3bf7f9&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20NC_Pet_HC_Pharmacy_Compounded&utm_term=4584551178193293&utm_content=Compounded%20Medications

(07-11-2023, 06:05 PM)Mer Wrote: This right here. It's one of those secrets the people that get rich off cancer treatments don't want you to know.

WTS, the study I saw was for lung cancer too, but it appears it kills the cancer cells for lung cancer so maybe it can kill other cancers as well.

Yeah I've heard of it working on other kinds. Joe tippins protocol 

As always I'll throw a couple of bucks toward the cause. But the self-righteous need to get off Leon. As hard as it can be euthanasia is often what's best for an animal.

Obviously, Holic and wife have chosen to go a different route, but nothing wrong with someone suggesting Plan B.

WTS, this needs to go to Klotsch. Perhaps change it to a thread pointing to Klotsch as issues such as this can create animosity.

(07-11-2023, 09:06 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. 

Delete this post.

i dont want to see an animal suffer and sometimes its for the best

but mer and the other guy found a drug that i researched to and it can cure cancer cheap. so he dont even have to put it down now. just tell vets to get lost with there chemo that dont even work and get the drug that they wont tell him about. God bless the guys in this thread who brought that medicine up. i didnt know about it. now i know why. there trying to keep it a secret

(07-11-2023, 09:10 PM)bfine32 Wrote: As always I'll throw a couple of bucks toward the cause. But the self-righteous need to get off Leon. As hard as it can be euthanasia is often what's best for an animal.

Obviously, Holic and wife have chosen to go a different route, but nothing wrong with someone suggesting Plan B.

WTS, this needs to go to Klotsch. Perhaps change it to a thread pointing to Klotsch as issues such as this can create animosity.

thanks. it wasnt coming from a mean place. just from an old farmers point thats been thru it many times

(07-11-2023, 04:08 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Can't get on there from my work computer for some reason.

Boy those bills run up.  Spent close to $7000 on the previous one.  Have you looked into care credit?

Good advice. My cat had to have eye surgery last year and that's the route we took. It's nice to be able to spread those payments out. 

(07-11-2023, 09:30 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: This isn't your personal political thread. Keep your bullshit outt here. 

Two options; donate or STFU.

P.S. i will be deleting any comments not regarding the topic as soon as Leon shuts up or someone shuts him up. 

what the heck did i do wrong. just trying to help. and yes i will be giving him some money to help but just trying to tell him a option the docs wont tell him

(07-11-2023, 07:24 PM)Leon Wrote: im trying to help the guy actualy. the chemo aint gonna work. it never does. i know. that way he dont need to sacrifice his pride an beg for money or waste it on spmething that aint gonna work anyways. im actualy saying for him to put it in Gods hands and trust He will do whats best for the guy and his family and his dog. 

listen ive spent my hole life on a farm. had tons of animals and lots of family pets. its always hard so i feel for this guy and his woman but also. you dont want the pet to suffer just so you can keep them alive. sometimes hard chooses need to be made.

thats all im saying. just giving some honest advice to this guy. not you. he can do what he thinks best but im praying for him either way

This isn't about you, so just shut the hell up.

Sent. Wish it could have been more. You do a lot for us.

Done.

I would go to end of the earth to help my dogs, fingers crossed this buys you as much time as possible and helps the little one be pain free.

Good luck bud.

(07-11-2023, 07:24 PM)Leon Wrote: im trying to help the guy actualy. the chemo aint gonna work. it never does. i know. that way he dont need to sacrifice his pride an beg for money or waste it on spmething that aint gonna work anyways. im actualy saying for him to put it in Gods hands and trust He will do whats best for the guy and his family and his dog. 

listen ive spent my hole life on a farm. had tons of animals and lots of family pets. its always hard so i feel for this guy and his woman but also. you dont want the pet to suffer just so you can keep them alive. sometimes hard chooses need to be made.

thats all im saying. just giving some honest advice to this guy. not you. he can do what he thinks best but im praying for him either way

It worked wonders for my mother and grandfather actually. I would suggest not talking about matters you are ignorant about as if they are fact. Especially when it comes to such sensitive matters such as cancer treatment. Having it is hard enough I am sure without having to listen to ignorant people yell about its treatment being a scam.

Everyone please get off Leon's dick. He's not wrong. Sometimes tough decisions need to be made but those are not ours (the boards) to make.

That's a decision Holic and his wife have made.

No one wants to let their pet go...but the owner needs to decide when it's time.

If they don't feel it's time yet, then that's up to them.

(07-12-2023, 11:39 AM)kdgjr Wrote: Everyone please get off Leon's dick. He's not wrong. Sometimes tough decisions need to be made but those are not ours (the boards) to make.

That's a decision Holic and his wife have made.

No one wants to let their pet go...but the owner needs to decide when it's time.

If they don't feel it's time yet, then that's up to them.

While true, prepare to be criticized for sharing your opinion.


My wife and I found out one of our dogs in January 2022 (two days after the Bengals beat the Titans in the playoffs actually) had carcinoma cancer.
The vet said it wasn't curable or removable, but we could try some different chemo options to try to prolong my dog's life.
The chemo's goal was to slow the growth as much as possible, as there was no way to remove it.
Had we not tried, the vet's prognosis was probably just a few weeks to live.
We made the decision to try the chemo route, and it prolonged his life by just over 6 months, but it was not cheap.

At the end of it all, my wife and I felt we made the right decision, as my dog was able to act normal for pretty much every remaining day he had and he got to live (much) longer than had we not made that decision. If you try to equate that 6 months to dog years, he essentially got another 3-4 years of life.

Holic - I just donated to ya, bud. Hope your family gets to spend as much time with Roman as possible. Feel free to message me directly if you wanna talk about any of this, as I just went through this a year ago.

(07-12-2023, 11:39 AM)kdgjr Wrote: Everyone please get off Leon's dick. He's not wrong. Sometimes tough decisions need to be made but those are not ours (the boards) to make.

That's a decision Holic and his wife have made.

No one wants to let their pet go...but the owner needs to decide when it's time.

If they don't feel it's time yet, then that's up to them.

And 'holic CLEARLY and EXPLICITLY stated that their decision was to keep him going.

So anyone's bullshit opinion about partisan politic subjects and suggesting the complete opposite, is 100% moot.

(07-12-2023, 11:58 AM)ochocincos Wrote: While true, prepare to be criticized for sharing your opinion.


My wife and I found out one of our dogs in January 2022 (two days after the Bengals beat the Titans in the playoffs actually) had carcinoma cancer.
The vet said it wasn't curable or removable, but we could try some different chemo options to try to prolong my dog's life.
The chemo's goal was to slow the growth as much as possible, as there was no way to remove it.
Had we not tried, the vet's prognosis was probably just a few weeks to live.
We made the decision to try the chemo route, and it prolonged his life by just over 6 months, but it was not cheap.

At the end of it all, my wife and I felt we made the right decision, as my dog was able to act normal for pretty much every remaining day he had and he got to live (much) longer than had we not made that decision. If you try to equate that 6 months to dog years, he essentially got another 3-4 years of life.

Holic - I just donated to ya, bud. Hope your family gets to spend as much time with Roman as possible. Feel free to message me directly if you wanna talk about any of this, as I just went through this a year ago.

Thank you for sharing this ocho, and I might take you up on messaging.

The reason we decided to go the route of chemo, following the splenectomy, is because of how optimistic the specialists seemed to be that it would give him not only 'at least' a year (possibly more) post chemo, but that his quality of life should be pretty good during that time. We got a second opinion before making the decision, and they felt good about going that route as well. 

So, at that point, we felt confident we were making the right decision. If they hadn't been so optimistic or the outlook would involve suffering, we would have made a much different decision. 

Thank you George, bfine, ocho, faulk, samhain, BengalsLUFC for the help. It's appreciated so much!

(07-12-2023, 11:39 AM)kdgjr Wrote: Everyone please get off Leon's dick. He's not wrong. Sometimes tough decisions need to be made but those are not ours (the boards) to make.

That's a decision Holic and his wife have made.

No one wants to let their pet go...but the owner needs to decide when it's time.

If they don't feel it's time yet, then that's up to them.

Agree completely yet at the time of his last post he had posted over 40% of the responses, mostly in defense. It is kind of is a sensitive topic imo. Believe Leon is a really good man though and in real life I'm a rather blunt person too, so I get it. But it was obvious the decision had already been made to try and prolong the life of Roman, and it is the same avenue I would choose if there is a chance for any good life still.  

Have never had a dog die of anything other than euthanization personally, so I understand and believe everybody else does as well. 
Now personally, I consider my dogs part of the family and will do anything for them as most others will. My criteria for putting one down is when there is no other options and they no longer have any wag in there tail at all and/or they can no longer stomach food and quit eating and are just in constant misery with no option to help any longer. Then I pay extra to have the vet come to the house and do in their own bed as to not upset them on last day on a car ride to the vet,  and love on them throughout the process never leaving them.  Just me though, everybody has to make that decision of when for themselves.  But really does not sound like Roman has reached this point per there is an option or two available still that may provide a happy life. 

Yet dogs have short lives and a year longer life is like 7 years for a person. Now I don't tell anybody what to do with there family, this is just how I do it. 

May God bless Holic and his wife, Roman plus all who have donated or shared their experiences or medicines that worked for them. 

(07-12-2023, 02:15 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Agree completely yet at the time of his last post he had posted over 40% of the responses, mostly in defense. It is kind of is a sensitive topic imo. Believe Leon is a really good man though and in real life I'm a rather blunt person too, so I get it. But it was obvious the decision had already been made to try and prolong the life of Roman, and it is the same avenue I would choose if there is a chance for any good life still.  

Have never had a dog die of anything other than euthanization personally, so I understand and believe everybody else does as well. 
Now personally, I consider my dogs part of the family and will do anything for them as most others will. My criteria for putting one down is when there is no other options and they no longer have any wag in there tail at all and/or they can no longer stomach food and quit eating and are just in constant misery with no option to help any longer. Then I pay extra to have the vet come to the house and do in their own bed as to not upset them on last day on a car ride to the vet,  and love on them throughout the process never leaving them.  Just me though, everybody has to make that decision for themselves.  But really does not sound like Roman has reached this point per there is an option or two available still that may provide a happy life. 

Yet dogs have short lives and a year longer life is like 7 years for a person. Now I don't tell anybody what to do with there family, this is just how I do it. 

May God bless Holic and his wife, Roman plus all who have donated or shared their experiences or medicines that worked for them. 

I don't think there's anything wrong with Leon sharing his thoughts about putting an animal down,, he is a farmer and probably has dealt with that a lot. He didn't stop there though. He tried to tell Holic chemo NEVER works and that cancer can be CURED with a dewormer he researched on Facebook.  Just no need for that junk.

That's where he went off the rails and why people are probably telling him to keep his ideas to himself. It's clear Holic and his wife have gone with what the people who actually know what they're talking about have advised them on. If the vets are that optimistic,, I would make the same decision to go with the chemo.

To Holic,, I will be sending you some money soon as I get paid. I don't post much but I've been reading this board every day since it started in 2015. You've done so much to keep this community together and make this the best NFL boards around,, I hope everyone who has the ability to help does. It would be really cool if the community paid for Roman's chemo. We can make Roman the board's mascot!

Best of luck with everything and hope Roman gets a whole lot more good days!!! 

Sent a donation wish I could give more. Give Roman a hug for us.