(12-30-2015, 08:03 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If Ben R. couldn't handle "arguably the worst team in football", with his playoff hopes on the line, what makes you think that Wenning will fare any better?

Because at least a team led by Kaepernick could beat them....and the Jags beat them too. So. Hey. It's possible.

(12-30-2015, 06:39 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: What makes Keith Wenning incapable of winning a game?

From what I've read this week, it looks like the smart thing to do would be to sit McCarron (wrist) and start Wenning.... but it seems like everyone feels this means an automatic loss. My question is this.. is Wenning capable of winning in this league?

Sure, he is from ball state, but his senior stat line looks something like this.

4000+ yards, on 300+ attempts, 35TDs 7ints and a 154.4 QBR.

He is playing arguably the worst team in football, is Wenning scrappy enough to pull it off?

Sounds like a wenner to me 

(12-30-2015, 08:58 PM)The Real Deal Wrote: Sounds like a wenner to me 

So should we call him Tiger Blood in the nickname thread?

Hmmm.  Considering Charlie boy's condition that might not be a very good idea.

(12-30-2015, 09:19 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote:

So should be call him Tiger Blood in the nickname thread?

Hmmm.  Considering Charlie boy's condition that might not be a very good idea.

I'll  start  another nickname thread.... Oh, I'll start another nickname thread.... 

(12-30-2015, 08:07 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Because at least a team led by Kaepernick could beat them....and the Jags beat them too. So. Hey. It's possible.

Don't laugh, that Blake Bortles is one hell of a QB.  Don't be surprised when the Jags are in the playoffs, next year.

(12-30-2015, 09:22 PM)The Real Deal Wrote: I'll  start  another nickname thread.... Oh, I'll start another nickname thread.... 

I just tacked that on to the stupid old thread.  It lives ! It lives !

(12-30-2015, 07:49 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: You can't forsee the future. And I've done a lot in my life outside of football.

Rodgers can read zone. Show me a good read McCarron made while they were in zone. Other commenters and NFL analysts have even talked about McCarron struggling against the zone once Denver went to it.

Just because a team does zone in high school does not mean it's the same in the NFL level.

AJ Has played against zone before. But he hasn't played against a good defense in the NFL. There's a HUGE difference between college and professional.

So how well did McCarron do against zone once they started doing it in the second quarter? How well did McCarron do against the Steelers defense that likes to run a ton of zone? A pick six, another interception, and didn't get his 2nd passing TD until the final minute of the game.

Look at tape. Not stats. McCarron lacks arm strength down the field. He hesitates. Has happy feet. Once he faces pressure he struggles. Completed ONE pass while on the run this season.

In Alabama his team masked a ton of his weaknesses. If McCarron is so great then why did he last until late in the 5th round? He won national championships, right?

Hate much? This is a ridiculous rant with no truth you only seen him play just under 3 games as a pro. Arm strength? Show me one pass that he had that was under thrown. The first half of Mnf he threw like a freak and I was super excited. 2nd half was all on Marv/Hue.

Cough cough.. Cardale Jones last year cough cough..national championship..cough cough Anything's possible.. Probable? That's another story..

Well...I've joked about people errecting a 70 foot statue of Mike Brown on Fountain Square, but if they have to use Wenning and he takes us all the way to winning the super bowl they might forget Fountain Square and rename it Wenning Square with a 70 foot statue of Wenning urinating on the commissioner..lol

What's to say any practice squad QB can't win football games? Heck, thanks to Kurt Warner we can't discount grocery store bagboys from being HOF-level QBs anymore. Anyone can be a HOF QB. Anyone. You never know until a guy gets 3 or so years in a system.

You never know until you play a QB; that's why teams like the Browns who give 4 different QB's a shot each year find themselves with so many HOF QBs! Wenning could be awesome. We literally have NO way of knowing if a QB is good or not.

None. Zilch. Which makes me wonder who we need to start wondering about taking over for Wenning once Wenning actually plays.

(12-30-2015, 09:42 PM)Fresno B Wrote: Hate much? This is a ridiculous rant with no truth you only seen him play just under 3 games as a pro. Arm strength? Show me one pass that he had that was under thrown. The first half of Mnf he threw like a freak and I was super excited. 2nd half was all on Marv/Hue.

His arm isn't as strong as Dalton's and probably average at best for an NFL QB. With that said, and i made this comment in the preseason, he has a knack for putting the ball just out of the reach of defenders. He did it multiple times against Denver. Some said the WRs bailed him out but i just rewatched the game and he only missed a couple passes in the 2nd half. Most of his throws were good placement where only the receiver could get it. 

He missed Marvin Jones a couple times deep and Green missed 2 passes that he could/should have caught.

(12-31-2015, 01:57 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Which makes me wonder who we need to start wondering about taking over for Wenning once Wenning actually plays.

Assuage your worries. Kafka is in the house.


Championship.

Capable or Incapable we would/do not know until he received regular game action, its unfair to speculate until then.

His college numbers are impressive but we also know that doesn't translate into being a successful pro.

For our sake as Bengals fans lets hope he's more than competent if thrusted into game action.

(12-31-2015, 11:37 AM)Beaker Wrote: Assuage your worries. Kafka is in the house.


Championship.

Kafka might be good, but I'm kinda wanting to see what the kid behind him has.  So McCarron, Wenning, Kafka, and then who is behind Kafka is the guy I think could be special.

(12-31-2015, 01:40 PM)corpjet Wrote: Capable or Incapable we would/do not know until he received regular game action, its unfair to speculate until then.

His college numbers are impressive but we also know that doesn't translate into being a successful pro.

For our sake as Bengals fans lets hope he's more than competent if thrusted into game action.

So what you are saying is that the QB position is pretty much a giant guessing game where nothing can be determined until a guy gets actual game time?  With 32 QB positions on earth and 16 games per season I would say that game time is at a premium and there HAS to be a way to determine if a guy is likely to be good or not without allocating precious game time to him.

(12-30-2015, 06:39 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Sure, he is from ball state, but his senior stat line looks something like this.

4000+ yards, on 300+ attempts, 35TDs 7ints and a 154.4 QBR.

I have ten QBs here for you. The catch is you only get to choose which one you want based off of their final college season's stats. (No cheating, now!)

QB #1: 4,727 yards, 72.4% completion, 8.4 YPA, 37 TD/13 INT, 159.7 QBR.
QB #2: 4,114 yards, 69.9% completion, 10.0 YPA, 37 TD/13 INT, 172.9 QBR
QB #3: 2,217 yards, 61.0% completion, 7.5 YPA, 16 TD/6 INT, 138.0 QBR
QB #4: 3,763 yards, 58% completion, 10.1 YPA, 32 TD/8 INT, 167.3 QBR
QB #5: 3,869 yards, 64.7% completion, 9.4 YPA, 32 TD/12 INT, 163.3 QBR
QB #6: 4,486 yards, 69.1% completion, 9.1 YPA, 37 TD/10 INT, 165.8 QBR
QB #7: 1,572 yards, 54.5% completion, 5.7 YPA, 7 TD/6 INT, 106.6 QBR
QB #8: 2,265 yards, 55.4% completion, 6.8 YPA, 17 TD/9 INT, 124.4 QBR
QB #9: 4,205 yards, 71.2% completion, 8.1 YPA, 42 TD/6 INT, 163.9 QBR
QB #10: 2,857 yards, 66.1% completion, 9.0 YPA, 27 TD/6 INT, 166.5 QBR


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QB #1: Brandon Weeden
QB #2: Johnny Manziel
QB #3: Tom Brady
QB #4: Akili Smith
QB #5: Ryan Mallett
QB #6: Ben Roethlisberger
QB #7: Brett Favre
QB #8: Jake Locker
QB #9: Geno Smith
QB #10: Andy Dalton

So who did you choose?

(12-31-2015, 06:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I have ten QBs here for you. The catch is you only get to choose which one you want based off of their final college season's stats. (No cheating, now!)

QB #1: 4,727 yards, 72.4% completion, 8.4 YPA, 37 TD/13 INT, 159.7 QBR.
QB #2: 4,114 yards, 69.9% completion, 10.0 YPA, 37 TD/13 INT, 172.9 QBR
QB #3: 2,217 yards, 61.0% completion, 7.5 YPA, 16 TD/6 INT, 138.0 QBR
QB #4: 3,763 yards, 58% completion, 10.1 YPA, 32 TD/8 INT, 167.3 QBR
QB #5: 3,869 yards, 64.7% completion, 9.4 YPA, 32 TD/12 INT, 163.3 QBR
QB #6: 4,486 yards, 69.1% completion, 9.1 YPA, 37 TD/10 INT, 165.8 QBR
QB #7: 1,572 yards, 54.5% completion, 5.7 YPA, 7 TD/6 INT, 106.6 QBR
QB #8: 2,265 yards, 55.4% completion, 6.8 YPA, 17 TD/9 INT, 124.4 QBR
QB #9: 4,205 yards, 71.2% completion, 8.1 YPA, 42 TD/6 INT, 163.9 QBR
QB #10: 2,857 yards, 66.1% completion, 9.0 YPA, 27 TD/6 INT, 166.5 QBR


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QB #1: Brandon Weeden
QB #2: Johnny Manziel
QB #3: Tom Brady
QB #4: Akili Smith
QB #5: Ryan Mallett
QB #6: Ben Roethlisberger
QB #7: Brett Favre
QB #8: Jake Locker
QB #9: Geno Smith
QB #10: Andy Dalton

So who did you choose?

J Football.  

(12-31-2015, 06:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I have ten QBs here for you. The catch is you only get to choose which one you want based off of their final college season's stats. (No cheating, now!)

QB #1: 4,727 yards, 72.4% completion, 8.4 YPA, 37 TD/13 INT, 159.7 QBR.
QB #2: 4,114 yards, 69.9% completion, 10.0 YPA, 37 TD/13 INT, 172.9 QBR
QB #3: 2,217 yards, 61.0% completion, 7.5 YPA, 16 TD/6 INT, 138.0 QBR
QB #4: 3,763 yards, 58% completion, 10.1 YPA, 32 TD/8 INT, 167.3 QBR
QB #5: 3,869 yards, 64.7% completion, 9.4 YPA, 32 TD/12 INT, 163.3 QBR
QB #6: 4,486 yards, 69.1% completion, 9.1 YPA, 37 TD/10 INT, 165.8 QBR
QB #7: 1,572 yards, 54.5% completion, 5.7 YPA, 7 TD/6 INT, 106.6 QBR
QB #8: 2,265 yards, 55.4% completion, 6.8 YPA, 17 TD/9 INT, 124.4 QBR
QB #9: 4,205 yards, 71.2% completion, 8.1 YPA, 42 TD/6 INT, 163.9 QBR
QB #10: 2,857 yards, 66.1% completion, 9.0 YPA, 27 TD/6 INT, 166.5 QBR


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QB #1: Brandon Weeden
QB #2: Johnny Manziel
QB #3: Tom Brady
QB #4: Akili Smith
QB #5: Ryan Mallett
QB #6: Ben Roethlisberger
QB #7: Brett Favre
QB #8: Jake Locker
QB #9: Geno Smith
QB #10: Andy Dalton

So who did you choose?

I don't know about y'all but I got Tom Brady.  Then I did it again and got  Tom Brady again. So what's the point? 

I got 'berger

(12-31-2015, 09:38 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I got 'berger

I did as well...although I like to call him Big Jen....  :nunchuck:

(01-01-2016, 04:53 PM)corpjet Wrote: I did as well...although I like to call him Big Jen....  :nunchuck:

I've always been a big fan of the nick, Pig Ben.