There have been 2 instances in NFL history where a QB had:

30+ completions
300+ passing yards
4+ TD passes
multiple 40+ yard TD passes
no more than 1 INT

...and yet still lost. Those 2 instances were Joe Burrow vs. the Ravens in Week 5 & Joe Burrow vs. the Ravens again tonight. pic.twitter.com/vfRaLghMC9

— OptaSTATS (@OptaSTATS) November 8, 2024

They are failing their franchise QB on historical levels this season.

(11-08-2024, 09:58 AM)Millhouse Wrote: If you are a Bengal fan and actually serious about wanting Burrow and Chase to get out so they can win elsewhere, then you have lost the plot. The focus needs to be fully on the front office to make core changes in their off-season operations. They have three Ferraris on this roster and the front office are Luminas.

If a picture could describe the front office...

Chase watching Jefferson getting paid more money and having a winning team while catching balls from Sam Darnold. It’ll be the franchise tag because Chase will demand a great deal of money to put up with this crap.

(11-08-2024, 12:31 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

There have been 2 instances in NFL history where a QB had:

30+ completions
300+ passing yards
4+ TD passes
multiple 40+ yard TD passes
no more than 1 INT

...and yet still lost. Those 2 instances were Joe Burrow vs. the Ravens in Week 5 & Joe Burrow vs. the Ravens again tonight. pic.twitter.com/vfRaLghMC9

— OptaSTATS (@OptaSTATS) November 8, 2024

They are failing their franchise QB on historical levels this season.

Maybe analytics master Zac should look at these analytics. He has zero feel for the game. 

(11-08-2024, 12:35 PM)GodFather Wrote: If a picture could describe the front office...

No need to disrespect Sloth like that. Dude was a boss.

Burrow's comments after the game were sobering.  I don't think I've ever heard him speak so bluntly or single out his own performance to criticize others.  Maybe I'm being overly reactive, but I listened to what he and Ja'Marr said and all I heard were alarm bells.  The two best players on the team are openly angry about the state of things and they're running out of creative ways to dance around speaking their truths.

The front office had better wake the **** up.

(11-08-2024, 02:23 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Burrow's comments after the game were sobering.  I don't think I've ever heard him speak so bluntly or single out his own performance to criticize others.  Maybe I'm being overly reactive, but I listened to what he and Ja'Marr said and all I heard were alarm bells.

The front office had better wake the **** up.

He did basically call out everyone not named Burrow, Chase or Hendrickson..... and I like it.

Hire some scouts. There's an easy and relatively inexpensive thing to do. What's the excuse for that these days?

(11-08-2024, 02:25 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Hire some scouts.   

Or at least fire the one(s) that have failed and replace them.

(11-08-2024, 02:23 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Burrow's comments after the game were sobering.  I don't think I've ever heard him speak so bluntly or single out his own performance to criticize others.  Maybe I'm being overly reactive, but I listened to what he and Ja'Marr said and all I heard were alarm bells.  The two best players on the team are openly angry about the state of things and they're running out of creative ways to dance around speaking their truths.

The front office had better wake the **** up.

He’s had it. He basically said everyone other than him, Ja’Marr, and Trey are not pulling their weight. And he’s right.

(11-08-2024, 02:25 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Hire some scouts. There's an easy and relatively inexpensive thing to do. What's the excuse for that these days?

Less ski trips they can take if they have to pay a couple more salaries.

(11-08-2024, 02:44 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: He’s had it. He basically said everyone other than him, Ja’Marr, and Trey are not pulling their weight. And he’s right.

Got a link to the video?

(11-08-2024, 12:31 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

There have been 2 instances in NFL history where a QB had:

30+ completions
300+ passing yards
4+ TD passes
multiple 40+ yard TD passes
no more than 1 INT

...and yet still lost. Those 2 instances were Joe Burrow vs. the Ravens in Week 5 & Joe Burrow vs. the Ravens again tonight. pic.twitter.com/vfRaLghMC9

— OptaSTATS (@OptaSTATS) November 8, 2024

They are failing their franchise QB on historical levels this season.

Yep. He's playing at an MVP level and they still can't win.

Oh and kudos to the front office for not getting that Chase deal done.  He just got even more crazy expensive.  And now it begs the question of whether or not he even WANTS to commit to this circus tent long-term.

(11-08-2024, 02:49 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Oh and kudos to the front office for getting that Chase deal done.  He just got even more crazy expensive.  And now it begs the question of whether or not he even WANTS to commit to this circus tent long-term.

Well, he's going to get paid by any team. So why not go somewhere that values him and where he can win?

(11-08-2024, 10:20 AM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: We both do, but the players are the only ones who can do anything about their plight.

All fans can do is stop watching, which will happen en masse if Chase & Burrow find a way out.

No, the fans will not stop watching we will draft a new QB and WR and start over again we are not band wagon fans. We are here till death takes us and will be Bengals fans no matter who is playing QB or WR.

Speak for yourself but do not try to speak for the diehards that rooted throughout the 90's.

(11-08-2024, 01:58 AM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: Don’t waste another minute here. Get out.

Jamarr will get paid by 31 other teams.

Joe’s going to have to pull a Palmer. But the hits he’ll save himself sitting out while waiting to be traded will be worth it in the long run.

Those guys deserve HOF careers and at least one ring. Stars aligned once, and they lost. They will not be back. 75% of this team is a total rebuild and the coaching staff routinely loses battles of wits with cold mashed potatoes.

Get out. Find a way. You deserve better.

How can you be a Bengals fan and say this Kijana? Sure I would understand this from a stealers fan, but Burrow is paid more than 
about any QB in the NFL and Chase is about to be paid more than any WR. Get a new GM and new coaches and it is far from over
for the Bengals with Burrow and Chase.

(11-08-2024, 03:31 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: No, the fans will not stop watching we will draft a new QB and WR and start over again we are not band wagon fans. We are here till death takes us and will be Bengals fans no matter who is playing QB or WR.

Speak for yourself but do not try to speak for the diehards that rooted throughout the 90's.

Yeah, this is not even close to those days. Complete opposite honestly. Burrow also puts a ton of pressure on himself. I have a feeling
a lot of going for it on 4th down was his call even though it would of been smart to Punt or take a FG at the time. Going for 2 at the 
end was the right call though.

In the end this is all moot. Both Burrow and Chase aren't going anywhere and things will get brighter again and if we make the right 
moves these guys will win a Superbowl or a few before it is over. Perfect 2 players to build your team around.

(11-08-2024, 02:23 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Burrow's comments after the game were sobering.  I don't think I've ever heard him speak so bluntly or single out his own performance to criticize others.  Maybe I'm being overly reactive, but I listened to what he and Ja'Marr said and all I heard were alarm bells.  The two best players on the team are openly angry about the state of things and they're running out of creative ways to dance around speaking their truths.

The front office had better wake the **** up.

Agree here and I like that Burrow is calling them out. He is playing lights out and it is inexcusable for us to be losing games while him, 
Ja'Marr and Trey are playing this well. They are arguably the best QB, WR and End in the NFL on the same frickin' team.

(11-08-2024, 02:24 PM)Sled21 Wrote: He did basically call out everyone not named Burrow, Chase or Hendrickson..... and I like it.

I did too..... although, I don't know that you can blame Hilton a whole lot. He was pretty good in run support and blitzes.