Where is that defensive coordinator that Marvin Lewis mid season? Is he still available? Lol

I was pounding the table this off season to rebuild this oline and Dline from the inside out. This is hard to watch. Can we bring Lee in and move Karras to LG.

Will Burrow and Chase demand trades? I would.

(11-17-2024, 11:52 PM)Destro Wrote: Ain't gonna lie, you had me there in the beginning...

that was every volson fanboy's excuse

"oh he is still improving"
"he get better in the final 2 games"
"cordell volson please kiss me"

nonsense like that

Management has to make multiple changes now and in the off-season.

Zac and Lou has lost the locker room and you don't get that back.

It's time for a reboot into the 2nd half of Burrow career.... this group is finished.

(11-17-2024, 11:54 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Will Burrow and Chase demand trades?  I would.

Just sit out and say your injured

3 consecutive awful calls against his team and Lac doesn’t even mention it.

He’s a piece of cabbage with a headset and a bad haircut. Freaking can’t stand him.

(11-17-2024, 11:53 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Pretty impressive that the Bengals managed to take a young SB team and make it this bad...this quick.

Indeed

Just dumbfounding

(11-17-2024, 11:53 PM)bengalrick Wrote: Marino had the quickest release since Namath and a cannon for an arm…….not even close

I thought that was Elway... anyways... same role, minus the arm.. same role.

(11-17-2024, 11:51 PM)Joelist Wrote: Can we stop this illusion? Bates wasn't special when he was here. We thought Reader was done. He's been middling for Detroit. Them being here doesn't stop the problem on D - Lou has to go and we need a legit defensive coach with a sound system who will emphasize TACKLING. 

Not saying I disagree with your assessment, but I don't know if the ghost of Buddy Ryan could make this group of doormen legit NFL players. 

(11-17-2024, 11:53 PM)TKUHL Wrote: I was pounding the table this off season to rebuild this oline and Dline from the inside out. This is hard to watch. Can we bring Lee in and move Karras to LG.

It won't help but try it if you like. The problem is the scheme. It sets up linemen to fail. We are in shotgun way too much, we use a run scheme not compatible with what the players strengths are, we are utterly predictable in play selection and do nothing to scheme receivers open or deceive the defense. This is a college level offensive scheme. 

Joe burrow looks like he's contemplating pulling a Palmer

(11-17-2024, 11:51 PM)Joelist Wrote: Can we stop this illusion? Bates wasn't special when he was here. We thought Reader was done. He's been middling for Detroit. Them being here doesn't stop the problem on D - Lou has to go and we need a legit defensive coach with a sound system who will emphasize TACKLING. 

I think Bates appeared to not be great because he covered for a lot of scheme and player deficiencies.

Reader was a wall when he played. But, he was hurt a lot and his snap count was lower. But, lines doubled him.

(11-17-2024, 11:30 PM)BengalsLUFC Wrote: Wasn’t even touched

I’m gonna stay up and watch this to see how bad it gets I’m a masochist.

Me too lol 

(11-17-2024, 11:53 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: If you are playing 9-on-7 and one of your 9 is Joe Burrow and you still can't win? You need fired.

I have to agree. I've been a Zac supporter for some time. But, watching the play calling this year, the executions, etc? Yeah, I'm done with this experiment. 

(11-17-2024, 11:53 PM)TKUHL Wrote: I was pounding the table this off season to rebuild this oline and Dline from the inside out. This is hard to watch. Can we bring Lee in and move Karras to LG.

Maybe one day someone in the Brown family will say we need to build the offensive line. Once a team has a very good O-Line they win. It makes all the difference in the world. A good line equals wins

(11-17-2024, 11:52 PM)Whatever Wrote: Volson is irredeemable trash.  There's guys on every PS squad in the league better than his bum ass.

The only bright spot about our increasingly shitty roster is that we can cut some fairly well-paid guys to free up some cap.  

Rankins, Cappa, Stone, can all be let go and the impact would be minimal.  Might even be a net gain.  

(11-17-2024, 11:43 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Have you ever looked at his record without Brady under center?  His career is abysmal without Tom.

OK. He helped Matt Cassel to get P-A-I-D. He'd theoretically have Burrow.  Has Mac Jones taken off under a different HC or something? Have any of his former non-Brady QBs looked better under a different coaching regime? 

(11-17-2024, 11:56 PM)Joelist Wrote: It won't help but try it if you like. The problem is the scheme. It sets up linemen to fail. We are in shotgun way too much, we use a run scheme not compatible with what the players strengths are, we are utterly predictable in play selection and do nothing to scheme receivers open or deceive the defense. This is a college level offensive scheme. 

This. And we've run it for years. Very predictable.

Our scheme on both sides is basic.

When the coaches can't fix things, there's a problem.