(02-26-2025, 10:17 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Almost always is but was not with Chase. They had agreed. Won’t go into it but blame the FO for 99% of the time but it was not the FO’s fault Chase was not signed last year. 

“Trust me bro”

(02-26-2025, 11:10 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: “Trust me bro”

Trust me bro it’s impossible my source is wrong

Chase is going to be paid... So is anyone sacrificing to keep everyone together or is that all talk to turn fans on the FO while they are secretly behind closed doors only worried about themselves?

With no sacrifice being made from Burrow or Chase, I won' blame the FO for not being able to afford Tee. Even with them putting pressure on them to do so.

At least Hendrickson is only speaking for himself and not acting like he's working for a package deal to get all his friends signed. Tee seeing Chase and Burrow break records just to tell him to take less is why you never mix finances with "friendship". 

We should all hope Tee maximizes his worth and gets his money elsewhere. Burrow and Chase had their chance to help and they chose themselves. He should choose himself too. 

(02-26-2025, 01:54 PM)jj22 Wrote: Chase is going to be paid... So is anyone sacrificing to keep everyone together or is that all talk to turn fans on the FO while they are secretly behind closed doors only worried about themselves?

With no sacrifice being made from Burrow or Chase, I won' blame the FO for not being able to afford Tee. Even with them putting pressure on them to do so.

At least Hendrickson is only speaking for himself and not acting like he's working for a package deal to get all his friends signed. Tee seeing Chase and Burrow break records just to tell him to take less is why you never mix finances with "friendship". 

We should all hope Tee maximizes his worth and gets his money elsewhere. Burrow and Chase had their chance to help and they chose themselves. He should choose himself too. 

So let me get this right, you are saying Tee should not sign the Tag and hit FA for his own best interest?

Not saying I disagree, just saying this would suck for everything Bengals....

If he's tagged then he should sign.

But I don't think he should be taking less than he would get on the open market to sign an extension and stay a Bengal if his "friends" didn't.

We saying he should be extended for less than 30m a year when he can get that on the open market isn't fair given no one else sacrificed.

But some around here want Tee to sacrifice while giving Burrow and Chase the credit for "doing (not)" what it takes to keep the big 3 together... 

(02-26-2025, 02:26 PM)jj22 Wrote: If he's tagged then he should sign.

But I don't think he should be taking less than he would get on the open market to sign an extension and stay a Bengal if his "friends" didn't.

We saying he should be extended for less than 30m a year when he can get that on the open market isn't fair given no one else sacrificed.

But some around here want Tee to sacrifice while giving Burrow and Chase the credit for "doing (not)" what it takes to keep the big 3 together... 

I don't know about that. Most are saying Tee should be paid around 26 mil per year what he is worth. Joe said he would do whatever he could to 
keep Tee and that sounds like a restructure and I trust Joe. Ja'Marr has earned every penny and should be around 40 mil per year and he deserves
it. Ja'Marr isn't going to sacrifice anything and we all know it, nor should he.

The Bengals are heavily scouting top DE at Combine. I have bad feeling (no evidence) that they are going to let Trey walk after the Chase deal. If I had to choose between Higgins or Hendrickson, I would do Edge and just draft TE, and WR. Just me though.

(02-26-2025, 02:32 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I don't know about that. Most are saying Tee should be paid around 26 mil per year what he is worth. Joe said he would do whatever he could to 
keep Tee and that sounds like a restructure and I trust Joe. Ja'Marr has earned every penny and should be around 40 mil per year and he deserves
it. Ja'Marr isn't going to sacrifice anything and we all know it, nor should he.

Joe and chase taking top dollar at their positions doesn't do Tee any favors.

But we have a Top QB and the #1 WR we can tag and trade tee for some picks to help rebuild the core


Chasing the money is good for the player bad for the team generally.    Guy with the most SB rings was underpaid most his career compared to lesser talent

I'd choose to replace Trey. This draft is the draft to do it, and better to replace DE then WR2...

(02-26-2025, 02:46 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: The Bengals are heavily scouting top DE at Combine.  I have bad feeling (no evidence) that they are going to let Trey walk after the Chase deal.  If I had to choose between Higgins or Hendrickson, I would do Edge and just draft TE, and WR.  Just me though.

The thing is, this is a great Draft for DL and a bad Draft for WR's. The upside of this plan.

(02-26-2025, 02:50 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Joe and chase taking top dollar at their positions doesn't do Tee any favors.

But we have a Top QB and the #1 WR we can tag and trade tee for some picks to help rebuild the core


Chasing the money is good for the player bad for the team generally.    Guy with the most SB rings was underpaid most his career compared to lesser talent

All true, Joe said he would do whatever is needed though to keep Tee. We will see.

(02-26-2025, 03:00 PM)jj22 Wrote: I'd choose to replace Trey. This draft is the draft to do it, and better to replace DE then WR2...

As I stated above, I agree with you here JJ22. This Draft is deep with Ends and DT's like crazy. We actually should hit on one this Draft.

We have Montgomery and Golden here now too unlike when we drafted Murphy and I still haven't given up on Murphy either.

(02-26-2025, 03:14 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: The thing is, this is a great Draft for DL and a bad Draft for WR's. The upside of this plan.


All true, Joe said he would do whatever is needed though to keep Tee. We will see.


As I stated above, I agree with you here JJ22. This Draft is deep with Ends and DT's like crazy. We actually should hit on one this Draft.

We have Montgomery and Golden here now too unlike when we drafted Murphy and I still haven't given up on Murphy either.

If we had 2 first round picks we could use both on DE... Keep Hubbard on a restructured deal pay cut (like they did Mixon) for depth. The Wideout class is much more hit or miss, I'd be more concerned about trying to replace Tee this draft. 

(02-26-2025, 11:37 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Trust me bro it’s impossible my source is wrong

This was what was reported last year:


Apparently, Chase's camp was fine with those numbers, but the lone problem was with when the guarantees would kick in. The receiver wanted the guaranteed money and injury protections to release earlier in the deal, and when the two couldn't come to an agreement the talks discontinued. 

Why didn't Ja'Marr Chase sign a contract extension? Star WR, Bengals couldn't agree on salary guarantees | Sporting News

(02-26-2025, 10:55 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Duke said yesterday that Chase or somebody changed their mind at the last minute, I’m telling you that an agreement was reached by all sides

“He changed his mind, which is fine,” Tobin said. “We understood. There’s no hard feelings in this stuff. I don’t get angry about this stuff. It’s just business. We’re looking out for the 53 players on this team, and a lot of times, they’re looking out for the one. It’s their agent’s job to look out for the one, and they have to understand it’s my job to look out for the totality.”

Duke Tobin suggests Ja’Marr Chase changed his mind during contract talks with Bengals last year - Cincy Jungle

(02-26-2025, 03:23 PM)jj22 Wrote: If we had 2 first round picks we could use both on DE... Keep Hubbard on a restructured deal pay cut (like they did Mixon) for depth. The Wideout class is much more hit or miss, I'd be more concerned about trying to replace Tee this draft. 

Would have to go End early if we traded Trey no question and there are lots of good ones in this draft with immense upside.

Egbuka could maybe replace Tee or the other Higgins but they would take a 1st round pick. But personally, I would go with a TE like Warren
or Loveland and change up our Offense a bit to be less WR dependent. This would also help the run game and Offense be less predictable and
TE's are cheaper to keep than WR's.

(02-26-2025, 03:00 PM)jj22 Wrote: I'd choose to replace Trey. This draft is the draft to do it, and better to replace DE then WR2...

It's counterintuitive, but I get it.  If the compensation was right, it's not the worst idea.  

They're saying the right things about intent to sign everyone, but it's a tough ask.  I think at least one of the big 4 gets away.  

If he left and they managed to sign one upper-tier DL FA plus got another late first early second for AL to build with, then it's digestible.  

(02-26-2025, 03:00 PM)jj22 Wrote: I'd choose to replace Trey. This draft is the draft to do it, and better to replace DE then WR2...

I don't know the new coaching staff and maybe that's something to consider, but the Cincinnati Bengals do not have a great track record of developing edge rushers. As of late

Nice, so Burrow and Chase and possibly Teeggins will give us a Super Bowl in the NFL? aye? what about the defense? the defense...the defense.. the defense...

ok, invest in them three and rely in drafts and trades for the bengals to revamp the defense... defense...defense....

something the Bengals are not well known to do.. .. This Golden guy has his work cut out..

I know Tee is younger but that’s the only edge he has if it’s him or Trey.

Some of you act like one of these draft picks is just going to show up and get you 15 or so sacks a year. Even if a guy did become that level of a pass rusher it ain’t happening in his rookie year. You want to wait and see if he becomes that guy with a win now team like the Bengals?

Trey has put up sack numbers over the past 4-5 years that are only matched by 3 or so ELITE NFL edge rushers. Think Watt/Parsons/Garrett and what Mack used to be. They might all end up being HOFers.
Bottom line is that you are not getting an edge rusher in the draft who is going to give you anywhere near the production that Trey does - this is a much weaker team without him on the roster.

And yes to the main topic - Chase is going to get paid huge $. You have to give him the big dollars and hope as the cap and salaries go up that in a couple of years his contract looks like a steal for the Bengals.

(02-26-2025, 10:17 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Almost always is but was not with Chase. They had agreed. Won’t go into it but blame the FO for 99% of the time but it was not the FO’s fault Chase was not signed last year. 

You'll go into it, but you won't go into it. 

(02-26-2025, 03:00 PM)jj22 Wrote: I'd choose to replace Trey. This draft is the draft to do it, and better to replace DE then WR2...

I agree about Trey. Even though he was the sack leader, the defense needs to be shored up elsewhere immediately. If it isn't, those sacks won't matter as much when every game is a shootout, which isn't a good thing in the grand scheme of the chance of winning each week.