doesnt mean they will get what they want from any potential trade partner... But lets trey look

(03-07-2025, 05:43 AM)kevin Wrote: I knew players could go free agent.  I never knew players make their own trades to other teams. I thought team owners and GM's agree on trades.  I've never heard of a player doing his own trade before.  I have the feeling Bengals and another team would still have to agree on a trade and go through all the legal lawyer paperwork.  It seems to me with Tobin wanting both Higgins and Chase long term as 2 of the highest paid WR;s in NFL, that the trade of Hendrickson if done would be for a Draft Pick or Draft Picks.  With Hubbard retiring and talk of trading Hendrickson, new D Coach Golden will have The Worst defense in NFL to rebuild, no easy task. They may have to give him every draft pick because The D is so awful. 

It’s not Trey calling GM’s, it’s his agent. And the conversation starts with “how much does Trey want”. If the team would accept his contract demands or be in that ballpark, then they go to the Bengals and discuss compensation for the trade. Then that team has to decide if it’s worth the cap hit and the trade compensation to acquire Trey Hendrickson.

Like others have said this allows Trey to see if he’s really worth what he thinks he is. It’s a gamble by bengals because one side is going to be right. Trey or the bengals. And it’s probably Trey. Then the second half of the equation is will the bengals actually trade him. I don’t think they will. He’s under contract and they can franchise tag him next year and the year after that if they want. At 30 years old, can Trey really sit out the next 3 years and expect to get another contract? Can he sit out even 1 year? I don’t think so.

Unless Bengals are given a first round pick, I don’t think he gets traded. Bengals are very stubborn, I don’t see them letting him go for a 3rd. You can let him walk after next year and get a comp 3rd round pick. And his savings against the cap is only 16M. That’s so cheap, he’s a bargain for the bengals, why would they give up their bargain price contract on an All Pro talent.

(03-06-2025, 05:33 PM)Wyche Wrote: I won't speak for others, but he's the whole pass rush, lol. That's why I personally think it's stupid. That being said, I see the other points and they're valid, I just hope they have a really good plan. You can't blame longtime fans for being leery of any plan though. A lot of those plans have blown up epically in their face. I do like that they are giving him the respect he deserves. I guess I'm torn on keeping Tee over him. We'll just have to see how it all plays out.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the concern and everything you're saying. I think you could debate Tee vs. Hendrickson all day and not really come to a conclusion. Both are difference makers on the field. Everyone has their opinions on who provides the most value.

(03-06-2025, 05:33 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: It's stupid because in that scenario you keep the two 1st Team All-Pros and you let the other guy go.

Once Hendrickson is gone, we will have just 7.0 sacks left on our team.

Understand the point, and agree he is basically the D line right now. On the flip side Tee transforms the offense. All year long it seemed to me that the offense was significantly different when he was on the field or not. We all have our opinions on who should have priority to keep.

I'd hate to see Hendrickson go as he might be my favorite Bengal. High character individual and comes to play day in and day out. Lot of respect for him and it will be a big loss. 

That said, I'm holding judgement until this all plays out. 

(03-06-2025, 06:02 PM)Goalpost Wrote: He's a great pass rusher but what is his PFF as a run defender?  Anybody know?

hes marginal @best

Isn't Hendrickson eligible to be tagged after this season?
If so, the Bengals could just say, "Hey, we plan on tagging you next year, possibly the year after depending on how well you do."
That would essentially give Hendrickson a 1-year or 2-year extension with all of it guaranteed.

love Tre but would we give up Tre + a 2nd For Garret + a 3?

(03-07-2025, 10:26 AM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: love Tre but would we give up Tre + a 2nd For Garret + a 3?

How about an even, player for player trade with the Colts? Trey Hendrickson for Quenton Nelson? Anarumo get's reunited with Hendrickson, Burrow gets a premium Guard.

(03-07-2025, 10:26 AM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: love Tre but would we give up Tre + a 2nd For Garret + a 3?

The Browns would never do that trade. They'd want much more.

(03-07-2025, 10:41 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: How about an even, player for player trade with the Colts? Trey Hendrickson for Quenton Nelson? Anarumo get's reunited with Hendrickson, Burrow gets a premium Guard.

I think this is a bad trade unless you are predicting Hendrickson to fall off. An elite pass rusher has significantly more value than an elite G. Players like Hendrickson/Watt/Garrett are game wreckers by themselves. Nelson, even as good as he is, does not have that same impact. 

(03-07-2025, 10:11 AM)R3stangs Wrote: Understand the point, and agree he is basically the D line right now. On the flip side Tee transforms the offense. All year long it seemed to me that the offense was significantly different when he was on the field or not. We all have our opinions on who should have priority to keep.

I'd hate to see Hendrickson go as he might be my favorite Bengal. High character individual and comes to play day in and day out. Lot of respect for him and it will be a big loss. 

That said, I'm holding judgement until this all plays out. 

Bengals have proven even with Trey getting 14-17 sacks each of the past 2 seasons, that they can still finish 3rd and last in the division. Unless they're adept at developing a player(s) oppo Trey, (which they haven't done) or willing to spend the $$ in FA on an established DE (which I really doubt they do as long as TH is there) , then, yes, I'd rather they sign Tee. 

Other than a ton of interest by other teams in Trey, we have no idea if they want to pay him Crosby type numbers or even close to that, or if they would pony up the draft picks that Cinci. covets. TH could still be playing DE for Cinci. next season.

(03-07-2025, 11:26 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: I think this is a bad trade unless you are predicting Hendrickson to fall off. An elite pass rusher has significantly more value than an elite G. Players like Hendrickson/Watt/Garrett are game wreckers by themselves. Nelson, even as good as he is, does not have that same impact. 

Nelson also turns 29 in a couple of weeks.

(03-07-2025, 09:50 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I would hate not to have Hendrickson on the roster, but that said, at his age, you know that the motor he plays with is going to slow down. I'd be fine giving him a 2 or 3-year deal with heavy incentives on year 3, but someone is going to overpay for him. I hope he stays, but believe he will leave.

I'm in agreement with you. I think some team will offer him a much better deal than the Bengals are offering and will offer the Bengals a draft pick below Hendrickson's value and the Bengals will take the trade. Once Hendrickson has a good offer on the table the Bengals will not want a disgruntled player on the team, will not want other players upset how Hendrickson is being treated if the Bengals refuse the trade, and will not want a year where Hendrickson sits out. And thus they will take a below-market trade. The one scenario where I think the Bengals can decline such a trade and everyone will understand (players, Hendrickson, overall optics) is if it is a trade to an AFC competitor. 

(03-07-2025, 12:00 PM)Nepa Wrote: I'm in agreement with you. I think some team will offer him a much better deal than the Bengals are offering and will offer the Bengals a draft pick below Hendrickson's value and the Bengals will take the trade. Once Hendrickson has a good offer on the table the Bengals will not want a disgruntled player on the team, will not want other players upset how Hendrickson is being treated if the Bengals refuse the trade, and will not want a year where Hendrickson sits out. And thus they will take a below-market trade. The one scenario where I think the Bengals can decline such a trade and everyone will understand (players, Hendrickson, overall optics) is if it is a trade to an AFC competitor. 

So if Trey ends up back with the Bengals and they do nothing to his contract and he sits out the year what happens next year, is he still under team control for next year or does he become an UFA?

(03-07-2025, 11:26 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: I think this is a bad trade unless you are predicting Hendrickson to fall off. An elite pass rusher has significantly more value than an elite G. Players like Hendrickson/Watt/Garrett are game wreckers by themselves. Nelson, even as good as he is, does not have that same impact. 

I agree with what you're saying. I just don't trust the people in the war room to make good use of any draft pick that might come in trade, rather than getting an already proven high level player.

The #Bengals are seeking a Late 2nd Round Pick or Early 3rd Round Pick for DE Trey Hendrickson, per @jjones9

https://x.com/jasrifootball/status/1898019944396202135?s=46&t=pkni6GRbeTj3sw_si0D37w

(03-07-2025, 12:05 PM)Tomcat Wrote: So if Trey ends up back with the Bengals and they do nothing to his contract and he sits out the year what happens next year, is he still under team control for next year or does he become an UFA?

Good point. I understand the contract would just roll over. So, the likelihood of Trey sitting out a full season is pretty much nil. But if he has a gripe that he found a team willing to pay him beaucoup dollars and the Bengals will neither pay him or trade him, I suppose he could sit out a substantial portion of the season and reach free agency the next year. But I think if Trey found a team willing to give him a lot of money and guarantees, and the Bengals were not willing to give him the same, then the Bengals would probably trade him, even for lesser value. Team chemistry would be shot if the Bengals stood between Trey and his getting a shot at securing his NFL future once he found a team.

(03-07-2025, 12:05 PM)Tomcat Wrote: So if Trey ends up back with the Bengals and they do nothing to his contract and he sits out the year what happens next year, is he still under team control for next year or does he become an UFA?

Typically, players sit out until the last second they have to report to get credited for a year.

So what NFL Team would want to give up a 1st or 2nd Round pick AND give Trey like a 4 year $150-160 million contract?

IF he were a free agent, some team might give him that contract. But, with a 1st Round pick you get a young, cost controlled player.

Let's say the Chargers who pick 22 wanted Trey.

At 22, Mykel Williams should be there. Kenneth Grant a DT from Michigan. JT Tuimolau an Edge from Ohio State.

Just saw one mock where 18 defensive linemen were picked by the end of round 2. It's a deep draft there.