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There were no contract incentives on the line.
A.J. Green has been around.
No doubt Bob trusts his sources, and he doesn't making things up, but I wouldn't make too much of this. For instance: Tyler Eifert and Clint Boling weren't in team meetings either. No, Green isn't having surgery, but we have no idea what the arrangement is.
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(12-29-2016, 08:46 PM)Trademark Wrote: This is starting to remind me of Carson Palmer all over again. Way to go Mike Clown, hopefully Green demands a trade and goes to a team where he can actually win a Super Bowl
Will it get our shitty OC dumped like it did when CP left?
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(12-29-2016, 08:33 PM)J24 Wrote: Both sides could have handled this situation better it seems.
Nope, only one side. AS usual, Son of Paul has pissed off another star player. What a putz.
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Happens a lot in organizations with a CEO who stays too long.
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(12-30-2016, 09:49 AM)Wyche Wrote: Nope, only one side. AS usual, Son of Paul has pissed off another star player. What a putz.
Hit the nail on the head here. Green is not known for being a trouble maker or anything of that nature. He is merely a competitor, one of the best. So for him to be so publicly and visibly upset reflects very poorly (once again) on this franchise. Apparently 'ol Mikey Boy's franchise doesn't communicate very well internally.
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If they let AJ play just enough to get his yards, went out there on the first play and tore the hamstring off the bone and ended his career, the majority of people would immediately jump sides and criticize the organization for putting him out there in a game that meant nothing. Plenty of legitimate things to gripe about without made up outrages. There's a reason Randy Moss is the only receiver to get 1000 yds. his first 6 seasons. Staying healthy has kept a lot of elite receivers from doing it.
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(12-30-2016, 11:45 AM)Sled21 Wrote: If they let AJ play just enough to get his yards, went out there on the first play and tore the hamstring off the bone and ended his career, the majority of people would immediately jump sides and criticize the organization for putting him out there in a game that meant nothing. Plenty of legitimate things to gripe about without made up outrages. There's a reason Randy Moss is the only receiver to get 1000 yds. his first 6 seasons. Staying healthy has kept a lot of elite receivers from doing it.
Some people view Green as an asset. Others view him as a competitor trying to leave his mark on the NFL.
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(12-30-2016, 11:37 AM)treee Wrote: Hit the nail on the head here. Green is not known for being a trouble maker or anything of that nature. He is merely a competitor, one of the best. So for him to be so publicly and visibly upset reflects very poorly (once again) on this franchise. Apparently 'ol Mikey Boy's franchise doesn't communicate very well internally.
Where is he publicly upset?
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(12-30-2016, 12:05 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Where is he publicly upset?
How did the media find out that he was upset?
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(12-30-2016, 12:06 PM)treee Wrote: How did the media find out that he was upset?
They are speculating it because they learned from someone other than AJ that he was not in this week's meetings:
Holtzman was told that even injured players typically attend meetings. Green supposedly wanted to play against Houston, so the belief is that he is trying to make a point.
Had this been directly from AJ or his camp, it would not be a "belief". As Jim already stated in the thread, Eifert and Boling haven't been in there either. The season is done for all three. There is nothing gained for any of them by being in the meetings, nor is there any harm as there is nothing to build off of in later weeks from this week's meetings.
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(12-30-2016, 12:14 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: They are speculating it because they learned from someone other than AJ that he was not in this week's meetings:
Holtzman was told that even injured players typically attend meetings. Green supposedly wanted to play against Houston, so the belief is that he is trying to make a point.
Had this been directly from AJ or his camp, it would not be a "belief". As Jim already stated in the thread, Eifert and Boling haven't been in there either. The season is done for all three. There is nothing gained for any of them by being in the meetings, nor is there any harm as there is nothing to build off of in later weeks from this week's meetings.
No, I meant originally? When he was told he wouldn't play in Houston?
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(12-30-2016, 12:16 PM)treee Wrote: No, I meant originally? When he was told he wouldn't play in Houston?
The learned that he left Houston last week from team sources, not from AJ himself.
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(12-30-2016, 12:21 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: The learned that he left Houston last week from team sources, not from AJ himself.
Ok, well maybe I shouldn't have said publicly. Good catch.
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After reading responses it sounds like a lot of you are for AJ playing. Why do you want to put his hamstring at risk?
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Who care if he did skip meetings if his season is over?
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(12-29-2016, 08:39 PM)Older Than You Wrote: Mike Brown penny pinching.
this comment makes zero sense....
Bengals are protecting their star from injury during a meaningless game.
AJ wants to play.
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Aaaannnd PFT is now spinning it into bigger than it is by calling him unhappy and saying he hasn't been around the team (which Jim has stated is not true)...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/30/report-unhappy-a-j-green-skipping-bengals-meetings/
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(12-30-2016, 01:44 AM)jj22 Wrote: Last time our Franchise player threw a fit, we all got the firing we had been demanding.
And went on to make the playoffs five consecutive seasons. Who could be a replacement for OC? HC is staying. DC will likely get an extension with some additional title like Head Coach in waiting. Alexander will continue to eat the majority of donuts at the coaches meetings. Who can replace Zamp?
I know the HC just left South Florida for Oregon, but that offense is flat-out amazing. Granted, it relies on a running QB and that gets NFL QBs killed, but I sure love how they get the ball in the hands of their playmakers.
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So he's taking time off from team meetings for games he won't be playing in.. OMG OMG OMG!
Sounds more like reporters looking for news that probably isn't there.
From the Department of Unsubstantiated Rumors.. Andy Dalton and Vontez Burfict caught in a love triangle with Marvins grandma.. When will the carnage ever stop? I hear Nuge missed kicks so he would get cut so he could pursue his lifetime dream of creating the worlds greatest paper airplane instead.
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