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***Official 2017 NFL Draft Day Thread***
(04-27-2017, 11:08 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: The Bengals wanted Coleman and Fuller last year. They never got to address their need for speed. 

Now they have it. 


For those wondering. The Bengals did not get calls for of a trade when they were on the clock. 

Coleman and Fuller combined for 5 TDs last year.  Impressive.
(04-27-2017, 11:05 PM)GodFather Wrote: If people are wondering why the pick? Well it all makes sense when you find out who are biggest scout in the front office is:

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And he was searching endlessly for his polar opposite?

That's a good point. A guy who runs a 4.22 40 and scored 17 touchdowns in a mediocre offense is the polar opposite of a wheelchair/Walking Cane bound guy who is always breaking bones.
(04-27-2017, 11:08 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: The Bengals wanted Coleman and Fuller last year. They never got to address their need for speed. 

Now they have it. 


For those wondering. The Bengals did not get calls for of a trade when they were on the clock. 

That is because they never trade and i am sure their asking prices are soooo absurd teams do not even bother trying!
(04-27-2017, 11:11 PM)Burma Wrote: Ravens pick one of the guys that shut down that fearsome Ross the Bengals picked.  Guess his speed killed them to the tune of 5 catches, 28 yards, 0 td, and 1 fumble.  Ninja

Doesn't concern me if we put Ross in slot Humphrey won't be there. Humphrey is an outside CB that I don't think has the agility to move inside.
(04-27-2017, 11:08 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: The Bengals wanted Coleman and Fuller last year. They never got to address their need for speed. 

Now they have it. 


For those wondering. The Bengals did not get calls for of a trade when they were on the clock. 

You know it BD and he has better hands and runs better routes than either of those guys and is faster.

John Ross is better than either of those guys and people will act like this is an Al Davis pick! Unbelievable. Whatever

(04-27-2017, 11:10 PM)Beaker Wrote: He did run that 4.22 post surgery so I'm not concerned about the knees. And he is larger than Desean Jackson and Antonio Brown. I do have concerns due to his list of injuries, that raises durability issues in my mind. But many kids have had injuries in college and not been injury prone in the pros. With better conditioning and nutrition in the pros, sometimes that makes a big difference. Remember Anthony Munoz had glaring knee problems coming out of USC.

Ross said the shoulder bothered him more than the knees. Guess THERE is a logical reason to hate on the pick.
(04-27-2017, 11:10 PM)Beaker Wrote: He did run that 4.22 post surgery so I'm not concerned about the knees. And he is larger than Desean Jackson and Antonio Brown. I do have concerns due to his list of injuries, that raises durability issues in my mind. But many kids have had injuries in college and not been injury prone in the pros. With better conditioning and nutrition in the pros, sometimes that makes a big difference. Remember Anthony Munoz had glaring knee problems coming out of USC.

good point.. 
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I will say with the injury history of Green Eifert and Ross

I hope an offense where all are healthy doesn't become an and on thing.

Green Eifert and this kid need at least 12 games together so we can see what we have
Mayock trying to cover up for looking like a dumbass for putting Allen at his #2
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ShowMeUrTDs Wrote:That is because they never trade and i am sure their asking prices are soooo absurd teams do not even bother trying!

Davis and Williams going ahead of them probably changed the asking price. Marvin said Trubisky going #2 changed a lot of people's strategies. 
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(04-27-2017, 11:16 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Mayock trying to cover up for looking like a dumbass for putting Allen at his #2

Yup lmao
(04-27-2017, 11:02 PM)TheUberHuber Wrote: Na, people get too hung up on the speed metric. Take it with a grain of salt. If you don't know how to play, i don't care how fast you run, you are not going to make it in the nfl..

He's not just a speed guy.  He runs excellent routes too.
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Ross said in an interview he actually ran faster after surgery. I think the Bengals offense needed something and they drafted someone with nuke potential on special teams and seem routes. I think some fans may under estimate how good Ross is at running routes. This means Dalton can throw a ball to a spot; even if he knows he is going down,
and Ross will be exactly where he should be.
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(04-27-2017, 11:16 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Mayock trying to cover up for looking like a dumbass for putting Allen at his #2

Interesting guys saying we could have got Ross in teens or 20's yet we could have had Allen there so at 9 he was a reach.
(04-27-2017, 11:16 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Mayock trying to cover up for looking like a dumbass for putting Allen at his #2

You found his production lacking of a number 2 pick in a draft class that had a marginal clear cut #1?

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(04-27-2017, 11:18 PM)Burma Wrote: You found his production lacking of a number 2 pick in a draft class that had a marginal clear cut #1?

Nope, but I don't get paid to do it
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(04-27-2017, 11:17 PM)Au165 Wrote: Interesting guys saying we could have got Ross in teens or 20's yet we could have had Allen there so at 9 he was a reach.

FWIW, NFL.com gave us an A- for it's Instant Draft Grade.
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I am still holding out hope the Bengals get 25th for AJM and grab Howard or Lamp.
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(04-27-2017, 11:17 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Ross said in an interview he actually ran faster after surgery.  I think the Bengals offense needed something and they drafted someone with nuke potential on special teams and seem routes. I think some fans may under estimate how good Ross is at running routes.  This means Dalton can throw a ball to a spot; even if he knows he is going down,
and Ross will be exactly where he should be.

They gave him super knees
(04-27-2017, 11:20 PM)Whatever Wrote: FWIW, NFL.com gave us an A- for it's Instant Draft Grade.

I really am okay with it. I think we get a top DE at 41 and everyone is fine.
We need a guard in the 2nd round now and a developmental OT in a later round.
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