(01-02-2019, 11:46 AM)Nately120 Wrote: I want to see this happen, but history also tells me that the hopeful Bengals fans of today become the disappointed Bengals fans of tomorrow.  Could this be the start of a new era?

I want this guy bigtime,and keep Hue Jackson as the OC and he can help Eric Learn to be a hc.It would be a perfect fit and bring in Vance Joseph as DC,.and we would have an immediate super bowl chance.It would be a coaching staff that would be awesome,baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do not have subscription to this but it seems like an interesting article.  Does anyone have subscription that could read and post?

The #Bengals are pretty tight-lipped about their head coach hiring process, but several names have surfaced as having interviews. @JayMorrisonATH looks at those who appear to be in the hunt and why they might or might not be good fits. https://t.co/Y30ghsUR3t

— The Athletic (@TheAthleticCIN) January 3, 2019

(01-03-2019, 02:49 AM)Bengalitis Wrote: I don't know, I feel Mahommes and Hill and their Oline alone are carrying the chiefs rather than their OC.  KInda like when Marvin was with the Ravens.   The talent on the Chiefs offense is probably the best in the NFL right now. He's only been OC for 1 year, geeze.  PASS.

Everything you just said about Bieniemy could also be said about Matt Nagy (the OC that Bieniemy replaced).

Nagy was OC for only 1 year and had the keys to one of the most talented offenses in football.

Bears went 12-4 with Nagy this year. Their first winning record in 6 years.

(01-03-2019, 02:37 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Everything you just said about Bieniemy could also be said about Matt Nagy (the OC that Bieniemy replaced).

Nagy was OC for only 1 year and had the keys to one of the most talented offenses in football.

Bears went 12-4 with Nagy this year. Their first winning record in 6 years.

Don't forget Pederson either.......

(01-03-2019, 02:37 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Everything you just said about Bieniemy could also be said about Matt Nagy (the OC that Bieniemy replaced).

Nagy was OC for only 1 year and had the keys to one of the most talented offenses in football.

Bears went 12-4 with Nagy this year. Their first winning record in 6 years.

Naggy called plays vs Eric who hasn't done that yet.

I for one worry about just going after a offensive coach especially those with little experience... hope we can bring in some defense minded coaches also

Nice link here for food for thought

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2019/01/02/risk-involved-cincinnati-bengals-coaching-search/2462853002/

(01-03-2019, 01:15 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: That is the issue I raised earlier.  How much does Bienemy plan and install offense schemes or is it just Reid's stamp.  I don't mind volatile coaches because players fear them.  I am assuming Bienemy has substance because of the results and Reid has kept him on the staff.  

If Bieniemy can bring Reid's offense to Cincinnati and be able to run it successfully, how is that a bad thing?

(01-03-2019, 03:52 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Naggy called plays vs Eric who hasn't done that yet.

He didn't start out calling them though.....nor did Pederson if I remember right.

(01-03-2019, 03:52 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Naggy called plays vs Eric who hasn't done that yet.

If he has an OC to call the plays, then what does that matter?  As long as he can create a gameplan, let the OC call the plays.  It looks like that is his current role with KC, so in my opinion the fact that he doesn't call the plays is irrelevant.  But that's just my $0.02.

(01-03-2019, 05:25 PM)Earendil Wrote: If he has an OC to call the plays, then what does that matter?  As long as he can create a gameplan, let the OC call the plays.  It looks like that is his current role with KC, so in my opinion the fact that he doesn't call the plays is irrelevant.  But that's just my $0.02.

Agreed. You'd have to assume someone in the role of Offensive Coordinator would have some type of impactful role in the offense even if it doesn't include calling the individual plays during games. Otherwise, why have an OC at all? I highly doubt they are paying Bieniemy to do nothing.

My thought (or hope) is that Bieniemy has been involved in player personnel decisions for the offense (both offseason and during games) and working with the players to understand and execute the plays themselves. If he's doing that, that's perfectly fine when considering for a HC position.

(01-03-2019, 02:35 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: I do not have subscription to this but it seems like an interesting article.  Does anyone have subscription that could read and post?

The #Bengals are pretty tight-lipped about their head coach hiring process, but several names have surfaced as having interviews. @JayMorrisonATH looks at those who appear to be in the hunt and why they might or might not be good fits. https://t.co/Y30ghsUR3t

— The Athletic (@TheAthleticCIN) January 3, 2019

GOOD FITS OR NOT? BREAKING DOWN THE BENGALS HEAD COACHING TARGETS.


The Bengals are one of eight teams looking for a head coach, but unlike many of the other franchises, they are not announcing the candidates after each interview has concluded.

And unlike the other franchises looking to fill openings, the Bengals do not have a general manager or anyone else in the front office speaking publicly about the direction of the franchise or the traits and philosophies they would like to see in their new coach. Even the dismissal of the winningest coach in team history warranted just a canned three-sentence statement in a press release.

It’s not new. The Bengals have been operating that way for years. But the search for a head coach is new, something the team hasn’t done in 16 years when it hired Washington Redskins defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis.

The Bengals were one of five teams looking for a coach in 2003, along with the Jaguars (fired Tom Coughlin, hired Jack Del Rio), Cowboys (Dave Campo, Bill Parcells), 49ers (Steve Mariucci, Dennis Erickson) and Lions (Marty Mornhinweg, Mariucci). And according to the team website, Lewis was one of five men the Bengals interviewed in 2003, with Coughlin being one of the others.

Many of the teams in the market for a coach are lining up the same candidates, so the number of interviews the Bengals conduct is sure to be greater than in 2003. According to agents and other sources, they will equal or surpass the 2003 total by this weekend. The Bengals have concluded or scheduled interviews with five candidates, and they have requested to talk to three more.

Five of the candidates have current or previous ties to the organization, which is something team owner and president Mike Brown has valued in three of his previous four hires, with Lewis being the outlier.

Of the eight coaches who followed team founder Paul Brown, six were promoted from within or, in the case of Sam Wyche, had played for the team.

It’s not a lock that the next coach will have ties to the franchise, just as it’s not a lock he will be offensive-minded. But six of the eight candidates identified thus far are offensive coaches.

Here is a look at each of the candidates the Bengals have interviewed, are scheduled to or have requested.

Hue Jackson

The first question in everyone’s mind when Jackson is mentioned as a candidate is “Why?” He went 3-36-1 in two-plus seasons in Cleveland. But as Lewis alluded to in his outgoing press conference, Jackson was in a tough situation in Cleveland, with the Browns tearing down the roster and giving him little chance to win in his first two seasons.

Brown most likely sees it the same way, and he respects and is fond of the 53-year-old Jackson. If he weren’t, he wouldn’t have approved his hiring on three occasions. But he also knows hiring him is not going to energize an apathetic fan base. In fact, it might do the exact opposite and drive away customers.

Still, many of these jobs are won in the interview itself, not on the résumé. How a candidate comes across in lengthy meetings with the front office carries a lot of weight, and Jackson is a Hall of Fame talker. Plus, the Bengals offense was its best with Jackson as coordinator in 2014-15.

Another thing at play here is the coaching staff. Jackson is familiar with the group, having worked alongside them for the final six games, and much longer in the case of a few of them.

Jackson reportedly was scheduled to interview this week.

Darrin Simmons

Along with tight ends coach Jonathan Hayes, Simmons, 45, is tied for the longest active tenure on the team. He came to Cincinnati in 2003 as Lewis’ special teams coordinator and has been in that position ever since.

It’s rare for a special teams coach to make the leap to head coach, but the Bengals twice have seen it work successfully in their own division, with John Harbaugh in Baltimore and Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh, although Cowher was a defensive coach for five years after leading the Browns special teams in his first season in the league.

Not only does Simmons, who reportedly interviewed on Tuesday, have a rapport with all of the assistants, but as special teams coordinator he has worked with nearly every player on the roster.

Simmons is tireless and committed to detail, and he has league-wide respect. When the NFL was debating changes to its kickoff rules last year, he was among a select group of coaches invited to New York to participate in the discussion.

And when Lewis had to miss a day of training camp for health reasons in 2017, Brown picked Simmons to run the practice.

Bill Lazor

Lazor, who took over as offensive coordinator full time in 2018 after serving as the interim for 14 games in 2017, might be an even tougher sell to the fan base than Simmons or Jackson.

Ivy League-educated at Cornell, the 46-year-old Lazor has a sharp mind. But his offenses finished 32nd in 2017 and 26th this year.

Lazor reportedly interviewed on Tuesday.

He has been an NFL coach for 13 seasons, but his three-year run with the Bengals is his longest with the same franchise. Lazor was quarterbacks coach in 2016 before replacing Ken Zampese as offensive coordinator two games into 2017.

He also was offensive coordinator in Miami in 2014 and ’15.

Vance Joseph

Joseph, 46, spent two seasons as the Bengals’ defensive backs coach in 2015 and ’16, and Lewis often touted him as a future head coach. Joseph got the chance in 2017 when the Broncos hired him, but he went 11-21 in two seasons and was fired on Monday.

The Bengals are scheduled to interview Joseph on Thursday.

Joseph was a defensive backs coach from 2005 to ’13 with the 49ers and the Texans before joining the Bengals in 2014. The Bengals blocked him from interviewing for the Broncos’ defensive coordinator position in 2015. Denver hired him as head coach one year later.

Joseph is the only defensive-minded coach on this list and only one of two with head coaching experience.

Eric Bieniemy

One of the hottest names in this year’s coaching search, Bieniemy is in his first season as offensive coordinator for the Chiefs.

It’s a position that comes with pros and cons. The last two offensive coordinators under Andy Reid have found success as head coaches, with Doug Pederson leading the Eagles to a Super Bowl title in his second season and Matt Nagy directing the Bears to the playoffs this year in his first season.

But as was the case with Pederson and Nagy, Bieniemy is not calling plays for the league’s No. 1-ranked offense. Reid is.

Bieniemy, 49, coached the running backs for four season before being promoted to offensive coordinator after Nagy’s departure, so it would be interesting to see what he could do to get even more out of impressive Bengals running back Joe Mixon.

Bieniemy spent four seasons with the Bengals from 1995 to ’98, so he knows Brown well.

Zac Taylor

Taylor, 35, is the youngest coach on the list. Like Bieniemy, Taylor is still working this season as the Los Angeles Rams quarterbacks coach.

He was quarterbacks coach in Miami when Lazor was the offensive coordinator and replaced him upon Lazor’s midseason firing in 2015. The following year, Taylor was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Cincinnati.

Sean McVay got the job as Rams head coach in 2017 and brought Taylor to Los Angeles as quarterbacks coach to work with Jared Goff, the 2016 No. 1 overall pick. Under Taylor’s guidance, Goff has thrown 60 touchdowns the last two seasons while leading the Rams to back-to-back NFC West titles.

The Bengals have requested an interview with Taylor, but they will have to work around the Rams’ playoffs schedule.

Shane Waldron

Waldron, 39, is the Rams’ passing game coordinator and tight ends coach.

He began his NFL coaching career as a football operations assistant under Bill Belichick in New England. He followed Charlie Weis to Notre Dame and was promoted from grad assistant to tight ends coach.

Waldron was the offensive line coach at UMass when McVay hired him as tight ends coach in 2017. He took over as passing game coordinator this year after Matt LaFleur left to become the Titans’ offensive coordinator.

Todd Monken

The Bengals have requested an interview with the Buccaneers offensive coordinator, according to a report by ESPN.

Monken, 52, has mostly coached in college during his 30-year career. His first NFL job was as wide receivers coach for the Jaguars from 2007 to ’10. After that, he returned to the college ranks as the offensive coordinator at Oklahoma State for two seasons and the head coach at Southern Mississippi for three years.

When Dirk Koetter took over as head coach in Tampa Bay in 2016, he hired Monken as offensive coordinator. Koetter was fired on Monday.

The Jets also reportedly have requested an interview with Monken for their vacancy.

Josh McDaniels

The Bengals requested an interview with the Patriots offensive coordinator and former Broncos head coach, but according to NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo, McDaniels turned it down.

It’s somewhat surprising the Bengals put in a request as an organization averse to risk. All coaching hires come with some level of risk, but after what McDaniels, 42, pulled last year in Indianapolis – accepting the job and then backing out a day later, after the Colts had announced his hire and scheduled a press conference.

It’s surprising any team would consider McDaniels after that.

Others to keep an eye on

Dave Toub

The special teams coordinator for the Chiefs is highly respected around the league. He’ll also be 57 in June, which would make him one of the older first-time head coaches in league history.

Vic Fangio

The Bears ranked third in total defense and first against the rush this season with Fangio at defensive coordinator, but at 60, he’s even older than Toub. Fangio has coached in the NFL since 1984, and with the Bears since 2015.

Kris Richard

Officially the defensive backs coach for the Cowboys, Richard, 39, is the defensive play caller. He was the defensive coordinator in Seattle from 2015 to ‘ 17. Much like with Toub, Fangio and the Rams candidates, the Bengals would have to work around Richard’s playoff situation with Dallas.

(01-03-2019, 07:54 PM)The Real Deal Wrote: GOOD FITS OR NOT? BREAKING DOWN THE BENGALS HEAD COACHING TARGETS.



Here is a look at each of the candidates the Bengals have interviewed, are scheduled to or have requested.

Hue Jackson

The first question in everyone’s mind when Jackson is mentioned as a candidate is “Why?” He went 3-36-1 in two-plus seasons in Cleveland. But as Lewis alluded to in his outgoing press conference, Jackson was in a tough situation in Cleveland, with the Browns tearing down the roster and giving him little chance to win in his first two seasons.

Brown most likely sees it the same way, and he respects and is fond of the 53-year-old Jackson. If he weren’t, he wouldn’t have approved his hiring on three occasions. But he also knows hiring him is not going to energize an apathetic fan base. In fact, it might do the exact opposite and drive away customers.

Still, many of these jobs are won in the interview itself, not on the résumé. How a candidate comes across in lengthy meetings with the front office carries a lot of weight, and Jackson is a Hall of Fame talker. Plus, the Bengals offense was its best with Jackson as coordinator in 2014-15.

Another thing at play here is the coaching staff. Jackson is familiar with the group, having worked alongside them for the final six games, and much longer in the case of a few of them.

Jackson reportedly was scheduled to interview this week.

Darrin Simmons

Along with tight ends coach Jonathan Hayes, Simmons, 45, is tied for the longest active tenure on the team. He came to Cincinnati in 2003 as Lewis’ special teams coordinator and has been in that position ever since.

It’s rare for a special teams coach to make the leap to head coach, but the Bengals twice have seen it work successfully in their own division, with John Harbaugh in Baltimore and Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh, although Cowher was a defensive coach for five years after leading the Browns special teams in his first season in the league.

Not only does Simmons, who reportedly interviewed on Tuesday, have a rapport with all of the assistants, but as special teams coordinator he has worked with nearly every player on the roster.

Simmons is tireless and committed to detail, and he has league-wide respect. When the NFL was debating changes to its kickoff rules last year, he was among a select group of coaches invited to New York to participate in the discussion.

And when Lewis had to miss a day of training camp for health reasons in 2017, Brown picked Simmons to run the practice.

Bill Lazor

Lazor, who took over as offensive coordinator full time in 2018 after serving as the interim for 14 games in 2017, might be an even tougher sell to the fan base than Simmons or Jackson.

Ivy League-educated at Cornell, the 46-year-old Lazor has a sharp mind. But his offenses finished 32nd in 2017 and 26th this year.

Lazor reportedly interviewed on Tuesday.

He has been an NFL coach for 13 seasons, but his three-year run with the Bengals is his longest with the same franchise. Lazor was quarterbacks coach in 2016 before replacing Ken Zampese as offensive coordinator two games into 2017.

He also was offensive coordinator in Miami in 2014 and ’15.

Vance Joseph

Joseph, 46, spent two seasons as the Bengals’ defensive backs coach in 2015 and ’16, and Lewis often touted him as a future head coach. Joseph got the chance in 2017 when the Broncos hired him, but he went 11-21 in two seasons and was fired on Monday.

The Bengals are scheduled to interview Joseph on Thursday.

Joseph was a defensive backs coach from 2005 to ’13 with the 49ers and the Texans before joining the Bengals in 2014. The Bengals blocked him from interviewing for the Broncos’ defensive coordinator position in 2015. Denver hired him as head coach one year later.

Joseph is the only defensive-minded coach on this list and only one of two with head coaching experience.

Eric Bieniemy

One of the hottest names in this year’s coaching search, Bieniemy is in his first season as offensive coordinator for the Chiefs.

It’s a position that comes with pros and cons. The last two offensive coordinators under Andy Reid have found success as head coaches, with Doug Pederson leading the Eagles to a Super Bowl title in his second season and Matt Nagy directing the Bears to the playoffs this year in his first season.

But as was the case with Pederson and Nagy, Bieniemy is not calling plays for the league’s No. 1-ranked offense. Reid is.

Bieniemy, 49, coached the running backs for four season before being promoted to offensive coordinator after Nagy’s departure, so it would be interesting to see what he could do to get even more out of impressive Bengals running back Joe Mixon.

Bieniemy spent four seasons with the Bengals from 1995 to ’98, so he knows Brown well.

Zac Taylor

Taylor, 35, is the youngest coach on the list. Like Bieniemy, Taylor is still working this season as the Los Angeles Rams quarterbacks coach.

He was quarterbacks coach in Miami when Lazor was the offensive coordinator and replaced him upon Lazor’s midseason firing in 2015. The following year, Taylor was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Cincinnati.

Sean McVay got the job as Rams head coach in 2017 and brought Taylor to Los Angeles as quarterbacks coach to work with Jared Goff, the 2016 No. 1 overall pick. Under Taylor’s guidance, Goff has thrown 60 touchdowns the last two seasons while leading the Rams to back-to-back NFC West titles.

The Bengals have requested an interview with Taylor, but they will have to work around the Rams’ playoffs schedule.

Shane Waldron

Waldron, 39, is the Rams’ passing game coordinator and tight ends coach.

He began his NFL coaching career as a football operations assistant under Bill Belichick in New England. He followed Charlie Weis to Notre Dame and was promoted from grad assistant to tight ends coach.

Waldron was the offensive line coach at UMass when McVay hired him as tight ends coach in 2017. He took over as passing game coordinator this year after Matt LaFleur left to become the Titans’ offensive coordinator.

Todd Monken

The Bengals have requested an interview with the Buccaneers offensive coordinator, according to a report by ESPN.

Monken, 52, has mostly coached in college during his 30-year career. His first NFL job was as wide receivers coach for the Jaguars from 2007 to ’10. After that, he returned to the college ranks as the offensive coordinator at Oklahoma State for two seasons and the head coach at Southern Mississippi for three years.

When Dirk Koetter took over as head coach in Tampa Bay in 2016, he hired Monken as offensive coordinator. Koetter was fired on Monday.

The Jets also reportedly have requested an interview with Monken for their vacancy.

Josh McDaniels

The Bengals requested an interview with the Patriots offensive coordinator and former Broncos head coach, but according to NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo, McDaniels turned it down.

It’s somewhat surprising the Bengals put in a request as an organization averse to risk. All coaching hires come with some level of risk, but after what McDaniels, 42, pulled last year in Indianapolis – accepting the job and then backing out a day later, after the Colts had announced his hire and scheduled a press conference.

It’s surprising any team would consider McDaniels after that.

Others to keep an eye on

Dave Toub

The special teams coordinator for the Chiefs is highly respected around the league. He’ll also be 57 in June, which would make him one of the older first-time head coaches in league history.

Vic Fangio

The Bears ranked third in total defense and first against the rush this season with Fangio at defensive coordinator, but at 60, he’s even older than Toub. Fangio has coached in the NFL since 1984, and with the Bears since 2015.

Kris Richard

Officially the defensive backs coach for the Cowboys, Richard, 39, is the defensive play caller. He was the defensive coordinator in Seattle from 2015 to ‘ 17. Much like with Toub, Fangio and the Rams candidates, the Bengals would have to work around Richard’s playoff situation with Dallas.

The article left out that Hue Jackson was responsible for the Palmer trade which was a bad deal for the Raiders.  They also left out that the same team in the Cleveland Browns have succeeded after Jackson was fired.  Ugh!  

(01-03-2019, 10:29 AM)Au165 Wrote: Top 5 defenses based on blitz percentage and their rank of points allowed....

Cardinals- 26th
Ravens- 2nd
Steelers- 16th
Panthers- 19th
Browns- 21st

Bottom 5 defenses based on blitz percentage and their rank of points allowed....

Lions- 16th
Colts- 10th
Chargers- 8th
Eagles- 12th
Seahawks- 11th

4 of the bottom 5 are playoff teams 1 of the top 5 are playoff teams. Being aggressive sounds cool but it doesn't mean it equates to winning or even not giving up points.

And those at the bottom of the list have better defensive lines that get more pressure than that of the patty-cake playing Bengals.  If you can't generate pressure with your front four in a 4-3 defense, you have to come up with a way to get pressure.  Or, keep doing what you are doing as it seems to be working so well. 

(01-04-2019, 06:49 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: And those at the bottom of the list have better defensive lines that get more pressure than that of the patty-cake playing Bengals.  If you can't generate pressure with your front four in a 4-3 defense, you have to come up with a way to get pressure.  Or, keep doing what you are doing as it seems to be working so well. 

It's funny you say that I don't think one of those teams have a better D line than us, I could maybe see Eagles but that's close. The issue is they have better second level coverage linebackers than us by far. When your second level takes away the quick dump off passes it let's your front get home. I think fixing the LBing group has to be priority one this off season even more so than O line because most of our defensive issues are related to the complete shit show at LB.

(01-04-2019, 09:18 AM)Au165 Wrote: It's funny you say that I don't think one of those teams have a better D line than us, I could maybe see Eagles but that's close. The issue is they have better second level coverage linebackers than us by far. When your second level takes away the quick dump off passes it let's your front get home. I think fixing the LBing group has to be priority one this off season even more so than O line because most of our defensive issues are related to the complete crap show at LB.

Yeah, I think a lot of the issues with the DL were because opposing QBs always had an open short yardage receiver.  It's hard to get pressure when the QB can just dump the ball off in a couple of seconds.

We know that Dalton has one of the quickest releases in the league, but I would be curious to see the release times of QBs facing the Bengals defense, especially compared to when they face the rest of the league.

(01-03-2019, 02:27 PM)fortyyearfan Wrote: I want this guy bigtime,and keep Hue Jackson as the OC and he can help Eric Learn to be a hc.It would be a perfect fit and bring in Vance Joseph as DC,.and we would have an immediate super bowl chance.It would be a coaching staff that would be awesome,baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of all the people I want to teach Eric to be a HC, Hue Jackson is not one of them.....

(01-03-2019, 02:37 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Everything you just said about Bieniemy could also be said about Matt Nagy (the OC that Bieniemy replaced).

Nagy was OC for only 1 year and had the keys to one of the most talented offenses in football.

Bears went 12-4 with Nagy this year. Their first winning record in 6 years.

However, one thing that makes you pump the brakes a bit is Bienemy was twice passed over for the Chiefs OC position, first by Pederson, then by Nagy. 

(01-04-2019, 01:29 PM)Whatever Wrote: However, one thing that makes you pump the brakes a bit is Bienemy was twice passed over for the Chiefs OC position, first by Pederson, then by Nagy. 

Until you realize the offense this year is better than it's ever been in KC. First place in both yards and points. I know this year was the year of Mahomes, but Bieniemy must be doing something right.

What I'm really starting to get concerned with is why people are being so critical of this guy. They are trying to nitpick every single little thing he has and hasn't done. Are the alternatives really any better? What about the alternatives would give you more confidence over Bieniemy?
Vance Joseph - Wasn't elite as a DC in Miami, bad as HC in Denver
Bill Lazor - Offense started hot but really took a nosedive after Green and Eifert went down. Shouldn't we be worried about his ability to adjust in games?
Todd Monken - He did well with the Bucs as OC but he was not good as a HC in college, going 13-25 at Southern Miss.
Zac Taylor - Currently QB coach with Rams but wasn't QB coach in 2017, he was assistant WR coach. So he can't really be labeled as the QB whisperer for Jared Goff since Goff broke out in 2017, not 2018.
Shane Waldron - Currently TE coach with Rams, but they haven't gotten good production out of their TEs, have they? He's also their pass game coordinator, but the Rams' offense is driven arguably through Todd Gurley.
Darrin Simmons - Been good as ST coach with Cincinnati but I don't think anyone would get excited about seeing a ST coach become the HC. Not that it'd be the wrong move, but it would be a letdown for many of the fans.

See? Anyone can nitpick any of these candidates.

And I'd personally be stoked for Bieniemy to come to Cincinnati. He's been a RB coach and OC his whole coaching career. Given we want to see an emphasis on the running game, wouldn't Bieniemy be a perfect fit to man the helm? I don't really see him being any worse option than the rest of the guys listed.

(01-04-2019, 01:41 PM)ochocincos Wrote: What I'm really starting to get concerned with is why people are being so critical of this guy. They are trying to nitpick every single little thing he has and hasn't done. 

Welcome to basically any topical discussion in America - beit politics, religion, sports, etc!

(01-04-2019, 01:46 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Welcome to basically any topical discussion in America - beit politics, religion, sports, etc!

Why aren't we seeing the same level of criticism for the other (external) candidates?