Will they?

Bengals can take advantage of some Cap accouting rules and create a little more Cap Room in 2021 by extending some players this week. For any extension reached prior to the end of the regular season, any signing bonus will be prorated starting with the current 2020 Cap year.

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(12-31-2020, 11:39 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Will they?

Bengals can take advantage of some Cap accouting rules and create a little more Cap Room in 2021 by extending some players this week. For any extension reached prior to the end of the regular season, any signing bonus will be prorated starting with the current 2020 Cap year.

— Andre Perrotta (@andreperrotta13) December 31, 2020

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I don't recall the Bengals ever extending someone in the middle of the season, but perhaps that's just me being forgetful?

(12-31-2020, 11:51 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I don't recall the Bengals ever extending someone in the middle of the season, but perhaps that's just me being forgetful?

Katie is usually pretty good when it comes to the money part of players deals. I'm betting she's on it.

(12-31-2020, 11:51 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I don't recall the Bengals ever extending someone in the middle of the season, but perhaps that's just me being forgetful?

I believe both Carson Palmer and Chad Johnson did so.

(12-31-2020, 11:51 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I don't recall the Bengals ever extending someone in the middle of the season, but perhaps that's just me being forgetful?

Carson Palmer got his huge contract extension at the very end of the '05 season.

For example, if William Jackson III signs a 4-yr ext. this week that includes a $12M SB, the signing bonus will be prorated over the maximum allowable 5 years (since you can include the 2020 Cap Year) instead of 4 years, which would lower WJIII's Cap Hits during the 4-ext years.

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Seems like this would make a lot of sense for Jackson and/or Lawson.

(12-31-2020, 12:15 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Carson Palmer got his huge contract extension at the very end of the '05 season.

Ahh. I just started watching the Bengals during that year's playoff game, so if it happened just before that, I would have missed it.

Whom do you extend? Lawson? Good when healthy, injured a lot. I like WJIII but the board loathes him. Allen? I think he's a capable backup.

The big issue is it takes time to do these contracts slapping one together in just a couple of days won't work. While I've never signed a professional sports contract I have dealt with several mineral related ones and they take months.

(12-31-2020, 12:29 PM)Synric Wrote: The big issue is it takes time to do these contracts slapping one together in just a couple of days won't work. While I've never signed a professional sports contract I have dealt with several mineral related ones and they take months.

I'm sure if they are going to do it, they have already been working on it.

(12-31-2020, 12:28 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: Whom do you extend? Lawson? Good when healthy, injured a lot. I like WJIII but the board loathes him. Allen? I think he's a capable backup.

I mean, depending on cap situation...they're both worth extending.

I see Jackson as the best CB on some lists.

(12-31-2020, 12:32 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I'm sure if they are going to do it, they have already been working on it.

Yep. And this window didn't just open up this week. It's been open for a while and actually closes after this week.

(12-31-2020, 12:18 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote:

For example, if William Jackson III signs a 4-yr ext. this week that includes a $12M SB, the signing bonus will be prorated over the maximum allowable 5 years (since you can include the 2020 Cap Year) instead of 4 years, which would lower WJIII's Cap Hits during the 4-ext years.

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I don't know if they were allowed to roll over unused cap space back in 2005, but I think that is the reason they gave Carson that big extension.  I think they actually adjusted his '05 salary with unused cap dollars instead of just prorating the signing bonus over a longer period.

What about extending Bates early?

I'd at least offer WJIII something competitive, before he hits the open market.

(12-31-2020, 01:01 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't know if they were allowed to roll over unused cap space back in 2005, but I think that is the reason they gave Carson that big extension.  I think they actually adjusted his '05 salary with unused cap dollars instead of just prorating the signing bonus over a longer period.

Yeah, I think rollover cash happened with the CBA in the 2010's. The same one that put in the floor. But, you could do an extension and count towards the current years cap.

(12-31-2020, 01:06 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'd at least offer WJIII something competitive, before he hits the open market.

Depends on if he wants to be here. Rumors are he doesn't. We need to dump all the players, like Dunlap, who don't want to be here and replace them with players who do. Jackson, who I like, is not irreplaceable.

(12-31-2020, 01:09 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Depends on if he wants to be here. Rumors are he doesn't. We need to dump all the players, like Dunlap, who don't want to be here and replace them with players who do.

Or dump the coaches that are making players not want to be here...

(12-31-2020, 01:01 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't know if they were allowed to roll over unused cap space back in 2005, but I think that is the reason they gave Carson that big extension.  I think they actually adjusted his '05 salary with unused cap dollars instead of just prorating the signing bonus over a longer period.

You are correct.  And this was preferred by Carson.  As I recall, he wanted to minimize the impact of his salary by front loading it as much as possible in years that could eliminate dead cap money in future years.  I think that was part of the reason he was pissed management tagged Graham and let TJ walk as a free agent.