Tampa just throttled the Chiefs and it was built on both lines. Yes Brady was Brady but Tampa's OL dominated KCs DL and Tampas DL embarrassed the Chiefs OL. Brady had time to throw and the Bucs ran effectively while Mahomes was running for his life all night and the Chiefs while getting a couple of splash run plays overall were not running effectively.

You also saw what a good Defensive Coordinator can do as the Bucs defensive game plan was superb. They took away the big explosive plays and made the Chiefs play methodically, which with the dominant Tampa DL was suicide.

Will the Bengals take any notes from this?

ehhhhh.......

I'm just wondering if a few around here might start to think that Tom Brady could be better than Andy Dalton

Chiefs o-line was banged up, and they were going against the best d-line in the league when healthy.

Guess what

That tampa d-line was healthy. Championships are won in the trenches, and a dominant d-line is a QB's worst nightmare

In a word.....no.

The model model will work........eventually. Until then, it’s a much safer bet that both teams in this year’s Super Bowl will win another Super Bowl before the Bengals win a Playoff game.

A banged up Mahomes, both starting tackles were out, TB was healthy.

So

Build them lines
Don’t get injured
Pay the refs.

All 4 Buccaneers TDs were scored by guys who weren't on the team a year ago. Wacky.

(02-08-2021, 12:45 AM)Nately120 Wrote: All 4 Buccaneers TDs were scored by guys who weren't on the team a year ago.  Wacky.

They weren't even in the NFC last year 

(02-08-2021, 12:50 AM)bfine32 Wrote: They weren't even in the NFC last year 

That too.  Free agency wins for now. 

Sadly, I think we will have the same patchwork style O-line, they'll draft Chase to play WR to get the fans excited and Burrow will get killed all year again.

(02-08-2021, 12:29 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I'm just wondering if a few around here might start to think that Tom Brady could be better than Andy Dalton

Go look in your Super Bowl thread. Apparently calling TB12 the GOAT is still a pretty hot take to some...

As to the OP? yeah, Tampa’s lines (and LBers) dominated. They were just the better team across the board.

What we saw tonight looked very familiar - a great quarterback running for his life behind a backup quality Oline. If the Bengals have the capacity to learn anything they should have learned that "good enough" isn't good enough. They need to raise the quality of their lines at every level of the depth chart. They're not going to do that crossing their fingers and hoping for Sewell.

(02-08-2021, 12:26 AM)Joelist Wrote: Tampa just throttled the Chiefs and it was built on both lines. Yes Brady was Brady but Tampa's OL dominated KCs DL and KCs DL embarrassed the Chiefs OL. Brady had time to throw and the Bucs ran effectively while Mahomes was running for his life all night and the Chiefs while getting a couple of splash run plays overall were not running effectively.

You also saw what a good Defensive Coordinator can do as the Bucs defensive game plan was superb. They took away the big explosive plays and made the Chiefs play methodically, which with the dominant Tampa DL was suicide.

Will the Bengals take any notes from this?

ehhhhh.......

Was it plan or players? I think both..

(02-08-2021, 02:09 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Go look in your Super Bowl thread. Apparently calling TB12 the GOAT is still a pretty hot take to some...

As to the OP? yeah, Tampa’s lines (and LBers) dominated. They were just the better team across the board.

All he did was win 3 post season road games and a SB over Rodgers, Brees, and Mahommes at the age of 43.  Take away that and his 7 SB rings and what have you got?

Hoprfully Burrow starts eating avacado ice cream. 

(02-08-2021, 01:20 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Sadly, I think we will have the same patchwork style O-line, they'll draft Chase to play WR to get the fans excited and Burrow will get killed all year again.

good thing he has 2 knees.

Andy Reid's sons have been a mess since they've played with drugs & alcohol. This last incident with the children hurt probably affected the team more than Brady and Co. probably did.

"A Kansas City Police Department officer said Reid's eyes were bloodshot and that the officer smelled "a moderate odor of alcoholic beverages," according to a police officer statement obtained by ESPN. The statement went on to say Reid told the officer that he had two to three drinks and that he also took prescription Adderall."

(02-08-2021, 12:44 AM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: A banged up Mahomes, both starting tackles were out, TB was healthy.

So

Build them lines
Don’t get injured
Pay the refs.

I didn't have a dog in this fight, but I was again appalled at the one-sided officiating.  That call against Mathieu right before the half was pathetic.  Gave the Pats 4 points.  Still have no idea what KC was doing letting him behind them on the previous play, but Evans ran right in to Mathieu, pushed off, and then missed the reception.  There is no way in 1000 years the Bengals get that call.  

One more thing for the recipe:  The LB play on Tampa.  They were blankets on TEs and WRs.  It was almost like they didn't care about any play action at all....they were thinking pass every play and they were ranging sideline to sideline with ease.  They were incredible.  

Even Patrick "Superman" Mahomes looks human behind a shitty offensive line.

Invest in the trenches.

(02-08-2021, 12:26 AM)Joelist Wrote:  KCs DL embarrassed the Chiefs OL.

Interesting observation

(02-08-2021, 09:56 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I didn't have a dog in this fight, but I was again appalled at the one-sided officiating.  That call against Mathieu right before the half was pathetic.  Gave the Pats 4 points.  Still have no idea what KC was doing letting him behind them on the previous play, but Evans ran right in to Mathieu, pushed off, and then missed the reception.  There is no way in 1000 years the Bengals get that call.  

One more thing for the recipe:  The LB play on Tampa.  They were blankets on TEs and WRs.  It was almost like they didn't care about any play action at all....they were thinking pass every play and they were ranging sideline to sideline with ease.  They were incredible.  

The chiefs never got the running game going. That was their biggest mistake.  Reid is now 1-2 in the Bowls as HC? lost in philly & now with the chiefs (both to Brady as opposing QB, kinda like us losing to the niners 2x).

(02-08-2021, 03:10 AM)Roland Wrote: What we saw tonight looked very familiar - a great quarterback running for his life behind a backup quality Oline.  If the Bengals have the capacity to learn anything they should have learned that "good enough" isn't good enough.  They need to raise the quality of their lines at every level of the depth chart.  They're not going to do that crossing their fingers and hoping for Sewell.

KC was down 3 starters on the OL, including both T's.  2 of those were former All Pro's and the other is a former Pro Bowler.  It's very difficult to overcome that kind of talent loss at a position group.  Reid did them no favors by not even trying to run the ball and making the KC offense one dimensional.  They only ran 17 times and 5 of those were Mahommes scrambling, so only 12 designed runs all game long.  TB was free to tee off all game long.