(11-16-2017, 11:16 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: This article had this gem in it:

'The case for Lewis remaining on the job always comes down to how bad the Bengals were before he got there. Cincinnati used to go 5-11 every year and now they go 11-5 every year. (Actually, 11-6.) Success!

But this is the most pathetic possible reason to keep someone around. This is marrying the second girlfriend you’ve ever had and getting her name tattooed on your forehead simply because she is better than your first girlfriend who stole all your money and burned down your house. You don’t love the new girlfriend, she doesn’t make you happy and she’s not what you always wanted in life, but … hey, at least your stuff’s not on fire? Go ahead and cancel that dating site membership because you can do no better.'

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/apr/12/cincinnati-bengals-marvin-lewis-coach-playoffs

(11-16-2017, 11:16 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote:  This is marrying the second girlfriend you’ve ever had and getting her name tattooed on your forehead simply because she is better than your first girlfriend who stole all your money and burned down your house. You don’t love the new girlfriend, she doesn’t make you happy and she’s not what you always wanted in life, but … hey, at least your stuff’s not on fire?

(11-16-2017, 01:45 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Actually, when your team is a proverbial loser, and you play 16 games then done every season, then 5 straight playoff years looks pretty good to you. But when you get to the point you team is always making the playoff, but then 1 and done, it starts to tarnish and you want more. Some teams would love to have Lewis, and they can have him. Cincy now wants more.... Mike, are you listening?

(11-16-2017, 01:48 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: The answer is Mike Brown.

Mike gave Shula a two year extension after starting off 8-24. He tried to talk Coslet out of quitting, even though they were mired in a 5-25 stretch. He fired LeBeau after a franchise worst 2-14, but in the interviews following the dismissal, you could tell he didn't like doing it. 

Given that Marvin has actually had regular season success and made the playoffs multiple times...it allows Mike to say 'we've been competitive' and justify the continuous extensions despite the postseason failure, the prime time record or getting abused by the Steelers.

(11-16-2017, 01:56 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Why does Mike have such a hardon for terrible coaches? And why is he so against firing them or letting them quit? 

He is to the front office as PA is to our Oline: loyal to a fault, no matter the incompetence. 

(11-16-2017, 02:03 PM)grampahol Wrote: For a team designed to lose and never get past the first playoff game Marvin's doing exactly everything right..
I'm firmly convinced that this team IS but one of the Washing Generals of the league, just good enough to sell tickets, but never good enough to beat the league favorites, the real money makers. 
I'm convinced Marvin was hired to keep us at that level or slightly below. 
The Brown family made a deal at some point to accept permanent second class status in exchange for something..cash perhaps, but I suspect something more sinister... Hired Lewis to ensure it and he checked all of the boxes to get close, but no cigar.. 
Is it possible to be so accidentally stupid to make billions of dollars and always lose? You would really have to work at it. 

(11-16-2017, 02:19 PM)bengals67 Wrote: I have been saying this since the 2015 playoff meltdown.

So many metrics showing that Marv is a poor coach and that this is a poor organization.  Hard to list all of them.

Besides the playoff record- his abysmal record against the Steelers stands out.

(11-16-2017, 01:56 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Why does Mike have such a hardon for terrible coaches? And why is he so against firing them or letting them quit? 

He is to the front office as PA is to our Oline: loyal to a fault, no matter the incompetence. 

(11-16-2017, 01:45 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Actually, when your team is a proverbial loser, and you play 16 games then done every season, then 5 straight playoff years looks pretty good to you. But when you get to the point you team is always making the playoff, but then 1 and done, it starts to tarnish and you want more. Some teams would love to have Lewis, and they can have him. Cincy now wants more.... Mike, are you listening?

(11-16-2017, 02:34 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: I know it won't be the most popular opinion, but I have quite a bit of confidence that ML would of made a bigger impact on this team if it wasn't for MB. There's not a lot of proof to back this up, but I feel like with a good scouting department, progressive outside the box thinking with the cap, and most important commitment for wanting titles, is what has set this team in a stagnant state of not getting to that next level. 

(11-16-2017, 02:38 PM)ochocincos Wrote: If Marvin felt Brown was holding him back from reaching his goals, he could have easily chosen to not keep signing contract extensions and staying as the Bengals HC.
Marvin is part of the problem.