(12-07-2017, 09:33 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It's going to take a Managerial change.  A change in philosophy upon how a professional sports team is run.  Trust is going to have to be passed on to a modern football mind, and given full control to reshape the organization, to fit the design that he has in mind.

Giving an outside GM full control is a big step for the Bengals.  Not only would they be giving an outsider full control of Football operations, he will likely also command a large salary.  However, if you look at the traditional winners of the past 20 years, it's not tough to see that the smart money is invested into great coaching and scouting.  Any serious GM candidate will require those freedoms, in order to even seriously consider accepting the position.

The increase in budget should easily be offset by selling out the stadium, every game of the year.  And, by increased merchandise sales from fans old and new, jumping onto the "new generation" Bengals bandwagon.  

It's a hard sell, for sure.  But, what do the family members that will inherit the team have to lose?  Nothing, as they inherited it to begin with.  So, why not invest into Paul Brown's legacy, and start running the organization like a modern era sports franchise?

(12-07-2017, 10:05 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Mike Brown doesn't want to be like other modern organizations.

He enjoys feeling like he is running a mom & pop store. He gets fulfillment from redemption situations like Adam Jones.

You can't keep guys like Adam Jones around if you are run like a modern era sports franchise.

Don't see change coming until he passes on.

(12-07-2017, 10:14 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Oh I fully agree Sunset,

The only way real change can happen is for Mike Brown to totally get out of the saddle. I just really doubt he'll do it !

(12-07-2017, 10:16 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Mike Brown was a child of privilege, I don't exactly see him dying at the job, like his Dad did.

(12-07-2017, 10:12 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Somehow I feel like Mike is going to retire this year.  His ego should demand him to see a couple of years of Katy running the store, to validate his parenthood.

(12-07-2017, 10:20 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I so hope, fingers crossed, you're right and he steps away. Really this time !

This team so badly needs a new direction, new blood, sweeping change.

(12-07-2017, 10:43 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: That would be great. Forget for a second that Katie may be more of the same, at least its a change we could welcome until we see what happens. Hopefully the winning passion skipped a generation and landed on Katie. You know, she really isnt that hot anymore, but a SB would make her the most beautiful chick on earth. Plus, women can't stand when they think people are talking bad about them. So a bad season with fans raising torches would cause her to make a lot of changes. Ahhh heck, who am I kidding? Mike will live forever. It's part of the curse.

(12-07-2017, 11:09 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You know...IF the Browns showed interest in Lewis for GM...I could see Mike Brown hiring him in that position for the Bengals to keep him away from them.

I think that's the only scenario I could see where he brought in a GM.

Supposedly Tobin functions as the GM though...and the Blackburns negotiate contracts though so I don't know that they'll ever bring in a GM.

(12-08-2017, 12:44 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It ain't working.  He's just a yes man to the family.

(12-07-2017, 10:12 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Somehow I feel like Mike is going to retire this year.  His ego should demand him to see a couple of years of Katy running the store, to validate his parenthood.

(12-08-2017, 12:48 PM)sandwedge Wrote: While that would be great and the right thing to do, I just don't see it happening.... Just to stubborn

(12-08-2017, 12:47 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yes. The big problem with family run businesses that are filled with employees who have worked there forever is group think. Basically people all have the same opinion after some time because they've been around each other so long.

(12-08-2017, 12:55 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Oh, you're absolutely right.  We've done a great job at diagnosing and identifying the problem, now if we could only convince them to fix it.

(12-07-2017, 10:05 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Mike Brown doesn't want to be like other modern organizations.

He enjoys feeling like he is running a mom & pop store. He gets fulfillment from redemption situations like Adam Jones.

You can't keep guys like Adam Jones around if you are run like a modern era sports franchise.

Don't see change coming until he passes on.

(12-08-2017, 01:28 PM)PhilHos Wrote: The thing is, he could still step in and overrule the GM on certain decisions, if he feels so inclined. I think Brown honestly sees himself as a GM and until he steps down completely, we're not getting a GM.

(12-07-2017, 09:33 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It's going to take a Managerial change.  A change in philosophy upon how a professional sports team is run.  Trust is going to have to be passed on to a modern football mind, and given full control to reshape the organization, to fit the design that he has in mind.

Giving an outside GM full control is a big step for the Bengals.  Not only would they be giving an outsider full control of Football operations, he will likely also command a large salary.  However, if you look at the traditional winners of the past 20 years, it's not tough to see that the smart money is invested into great coaching and scouting.  Any serious GM candidate will require those freedoms, in order to even seriously consider accepting the position.

The increase in budget should easily be offset by selling out the stadium, every game of the year.  And, by increased merchandise sales from fans old and new, jumping onto the "new generation" Bengals bandwagon.  

It's a hard sell, for sure.  But, what do the family members that will inherit the team have to lose?  Nothing, as they inherited it to begin with.  So, why not invest into Paul Brown's legacy, and start running the organization like a modern era sports franchise?