(04-04-2018, 03:20 PM)Shady Wrote: Billy Price is conspicuously absent. Anyone have insights as to why that might be?

(04-04-2018, 03:31 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Billy Price was 84.8.
https://247sports.com/college/usc/Bolt/USC-and-Ohio-State-roster-comparison-with-PFF-grades-112128476

(04-04-2018, 03:40 PM)JungleRock85 Wrote: I like PFF and all but someone else that isn't on that list that looked really good last year is Pat Elflein so that isn't the be all end all for why a guy should be drafted. With that said, I hope the Bengals take a Center in the first if there is one guy they love (whoever that is) and if they like all 3 of the top guys then take BPA and go Center in the 2nd round. Either way you are improving a huge position of need with some major talent.

(04-04-2018, 04:23 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: So.... now that he's "healthy," you really can't wait until round 2 to take the guy.  He's probably all but assured to go in the late 20's - late 30s.

(04-04-2018, 04:26 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Yea I think so too. Bengals might be able to trade back from 21 and get him if they can, but I'm cool with him at 21.

(04-04-2018, 03:08 PM)ochocincos Wrote: PFF just posted the following list of top season performances at C since they started evaluating players.
One individual tops the list...twice!
1) Frank Ragnow 2016 - 94.5
2) Frank Ragnow 2017 - 93.7
3) James Daniels 2017 - 89.0
Tejan Koroma 2016 - 89.0
5) Anthony McMeans 2016 - 87.8
6) Antonyo Woods 2017 - 87.6
7) Tejan Koroma 2017 - 87.2
8) Graham Shuler 2014 - 86.6
Will Kreitler 2016 - 86.6
Joe Scelfo 2014 - 86.6

Ragnow and Tyrell Crosby and our O-line is looking great for the future.

(04-04-2018, 06:02 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Well, i am sold at taking Ragnow at 21 now. From the SEC, longer arms than Price, bigger and nastier than Daniels. Smart.

Can handle the big NT's like we have in our Division. He just fits everything Pollack was saying he wants in his Lineman.

Ragnow and Tyrell Crosby and our O-line is looking great for the future.

(04-04-2018, 06:16 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: So this Tejan Koroma dude from BYU has some impressive scores from the past two years, he's in this draft class, yet we've not seen a single mention of him in any draft conversation.

I'm guessing that it's because he's 6'0" and #295.

(04-04-2018, 06:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I was looking at Koroma myself, size must be it then and that he played at BYU.

Both are good reasons for him not to be on our radar.

Ragnow man, big, nasty, smart and played in the SEC is who i want. Don't care how we do it. Trade down a little bit, stay at 21
and take him, or Draft BPA and trade up for Ragnow in the 2nd. Either way this is who i want now, took awhile but is tops in my
eyes now for sure.

(04-04-2018, 06:29 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yet, before it was official that Daniels was declaring, Price was the "hands down" top rated Center by all of the geeks that rate them.  I can see low balling Koroma for his size and conference, a little bit..  Obviously, they were giving Price the nod for taking to the position like a fish to water, in only one year of playing it.  Yet, they dinged the hell out of Ragnow for his injury, despite years of excellent production in the conference perceived to be the "most physical".

Heck, I think those talking heads sometimes just boost whomever they like, arbitrarily.

(04-04-2018, 06:42 PM)bambino5130 Wrote: I think these college grades are a little suspect because of the massive diversity of talent of the schools some of these teams play.

For example Arkansas didnt really schedule World Beaters in their out of conference, no offense to Florida A&M, New Mexico St, Coastal. Those could boost the rankings

When Arkansas did play decent SEC teams they didnt even score double digits. I know this is not on players like Frank Ragnow who is a really great player and would love

to have him. I just dont trust these ratings as much as I do with a more even talent pool in the NFL.

What do you do when you play tough and stiffer competition.

(04-04-2018, 06:34 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yep, talking heads and i have to admit they got to me for awhile. No more, Ragnow was the best Center before his injury and now
he is the best once again as he had a good Pro Day and will be ready for OTA's. I like Price 2nd for us though now as he is a much
more physical Center that can anchor better than Daniels the technician.

(04-04-2018, 06:53 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Honestly, I think I trust NFL.com the most.  If you go by their predictions;  Daniels, Price, and Ragnow should all go in the 2nd round.  I think I would be happy with the Bengals taking Isiah Wynn in the 1st, and whomever is there at 46 between Price and Ragnow.

(04-04-2018, 06:53 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Honestly, I think I trust NFL.com the most.  If you go by their predictions;  Daniels, Price, and Ragnow should all go in the 2nd round.  I think I would be happy with the Bengals taking Isiah Wynn in the 1st, and whomever is there at 46 between Price and Ragnow.