Quote:One nugget to emerge from the Bengals search: Owner Mike Brown’s kids—daughter Katie Blackburn, son-in-law Troy Blackburn and son Paul—have increasingly become more involved in running the team. Or it at least it seems that way to guys going through there. Those four, and personnel chief Duke Tobin, are the ones in the room for the interviews. Ex-Broncos head coach (and ex-Bengals secondary coach) Vance Joseph appears well-positioned, but I’ve been told by guys from Marvin Lewis’ staff not to rule out former Browns coach Hue Jackson. Remember, Bengals ownership is probably less concerned with public perception, or reaction to a hire, than anyone else in the league.

(01-09-2019, 11:52 AM)Wyche Wrote: This explains a lot of the uncharacteristic Bengals moves recently......


https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/01/07/wild-card-weekend-eagles-bears-chargers-ravens-cowboys-seahawks-colts-texans




.....although, I hope those two turds are only speculation by the writer.

(01-09-2019, 11:56 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: I'm sure its all speculation...  because its easier to do that

(01-09-2019, 12:11 PM)Wyche Wrote: I'm sure hoping that is the case, and it does appear that it is.  If it was Vance or Hue, I have no idea why they wouldn't have already announced it.

The interesting part here, is that it appears a lot of people on here were right.  Mike is stepping away, and it shows with the moves they have made recently that Mike Clown never made.  Firing Zampese mid season, firing Piano Man, making trades in the draft, etc.  We may have some hope after all......

(01-09-2019, 12:11 PM)Wyche Wrote: I'm sure hoping that is the case, and it does appear that it is.  If it was Vance or Hue, I have no idea why they wouldn't have already announced it.

The interesting part here, is that it appears a lot of people on here were right.  Mike is stepping away, and it shows with the moves they have made recently that Mike Clown never made.  Firing Zampese mid season, firing Piano Man, making trades in the draft, etc.  We may have some hope after all......

(01-09-2019, 12:33 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: exactly if it was hue vance simmons or lazor we would already know.


Also something to consider with these interviews is they are not just for the HC    we will likely have a 1st time HC and could be conducting interviews to find his coordinators as well. (or at least have info for the new HC to review when selecting coordinators)

(01-09-2019, 12:34 PM)depthchart Wrote: Given Mike's age, he will need to delegate more and more as time goes by.

It may be that Mike wants to be alive during the transition to Katie etc.

Allow them to get on the bike and ride it with him around to see that it all goes smoothly for them.

Never giving them absolute Power but as near to absolute as possible for him to still feel comfortable and to get them ready.

Maybe letting them shape their own future while he observes & advises.

(01-09-2019, 12:37 PM)Wyche Wrote: Very well could be......after reading that this morning, I'm feeling more and more like Duke Tobin is the GM here without that title for some odd reason.

(01-09-2019, 12:37 PM)Wyche Wrote: Very well could be......after reading that this morning, I'm feeling more and more like Duke Tobin is the GM here without that title for some odd reason.

(01-09-2019, 12:48 PM)depthchart Wrote: If it is true and Duke/Katie etc are making this call and they screw it up;  then what ?


They need to show that they "get it" and are on the ball by making a well thought out solid choice or we could be in for 30 more brutal years.

(01-09-2019, 01:15 PM)McC Wrote: Duke can't have the actual title because Mike pays himself the GM salary.

(01-09-2019, 12:48 PM)depthchart Wrote: If it is true and Duke/Katie etc are making this call and they screw it up;  then what ?


They need to show that they "get it" and are on the ball by making a well thought out solid choice or we could be in for 30 more brutal years.

(01-09-2019, 01:28 PM)Synric Wrote: Duke, Katie, Troy, and Paul Brown.

Says alot alot Duke being the only non brown in the interviews.

(01-09-2019, 01:32 PM)Okeana Wrote: Never thought I would say it, but if they hire either I will find a new team.  These inbred mongoloids are considering replacing a guy with two coaches that have worse records.  Dark days they are a coming

(01-09-2019, 12:11 PM)Wyche Wrote: I'm sure hoping that is the case, and it does appear that it is.  If it was Vance or Hue, I have no idea why they wouldn't have already announced it.

(01-09-2019, 01:41 PM)Benton Wrote: Time heals all wounds. And helps disgruntled fans cool down.

Marvin was more than a coach to then, he was part of their team. I don't think they would've fired him if he hadn't cost then tickets (again) without much hope of next season being better. If they announce a similar hire they're comfortable with but fans aren't (hue or lazor is my guess), there will be more discourse for no reason. No reason since nobody is trying to hire their pick.

From a business perspective, better to wait until at least after the playoffs when fans have cooled off some. Or, more likely, the draft, when fans tend to get more hopeful 

So that's my guess. Internal hire, announced closer to post season but already decided. Which fits with trying to get kubiak.

(01-09-2019, 01:48 PM)Wyche Wrote: This scenario sounds really plausible, but I sure hope you're wrong.

As to Kubiak.....my hope is that they wanted to talk to him about being the HC.....or an experienced playcaller to go along with an inexperienced HC.

We will soon see......but if it's Hue, there won't be enough time in light years to cool the fans down enough to stomach that hire.

(01-09-2019, 01:55 PM)depthchart Wrote: If it's Hue, then who do we blame.

If Mike has ceded this decision to Duke/Katie etc then they are more to blame and it would show that Duke/Katie etc are not in touch with how fans feel about Hue.

It would be a sign of a bleak Post Mike Brown world if Duke/Katie etc bungle this.

(01-09-2019, 01:48 PM)Wyche Wrote: This scenario sounds really plausible, but I sure hope you're wrong.

As to Kubiak.....my hope is that they wanted to talk to him about being the HC.....or an experienced playcaller to go along with an inexperienced HC.

We will soon see......but if it's Hue, there won't be enough time in light years to cool the fans down enough to stomach that hire.